just thought i'd tell ypu that v-limit isnt as crap as it used to be any more, they've built new walls and a a drytooling wall, dry tpooling wall has hanging logs and small wooden holds to hook an axe.
In reply to tatty112: no im sorry but i go climbing there and because im under sixteen i can go to a climbing club. because i no the employees i was allowed to have a go but im pretty sure if you took your'e own ice axes there wouldnt be any problems.