/ Where have all the climbers gone?
Not exactly heaving!
So what happened to the identical topic I already replied to? :-/
They shrunk in all the wet weather. They're there, just so small you can't see.
It was 7C at Curbar Gap, with brisk wind - too raw for me!
I was thinking the same thing when I had Widdop to myself on Sunday morning but just as I was leaving 3 groups of people turned up.
I initially got out of the car at bridestones only to be blown straight back in by the wind. Widdop was superbly sheltered.
not much below hvs... too hard for me
A few folk at Woodhouse Scar on Sun, lovely despite the breeze.
Similar to Millstone on Saturday. I thought it would be rammed, but very few people there. Embankment wall and area was empty!
Yes, my parents used to climb at Avon when the carpark was full, routes were queued for, and lots of tents under the crags was not a rare occurance...
yes and its always nicer at Beeston in March when you don't have to thrash around in the undergrowth and nettles. But there are only a few routes of each grade there so its never going to be hugely popular.
But Stoney is a different matter - loads of routes at all grades, despite the perception, and its usually quiet as the grave..... shhhhh.
Surprised woodhouse was busy I always thought of it as a evening crag.
Froggatt was a bit breezy but nice. Saw quite a few people there
Ok, but we had the whole of the Sunset Slab area to ourselves for the entire day yesterday...
If it pleases you Chris, I was working voluntarily all day yesterday, overheating in a mostly glass building, mildly frustrated that it was so nice and sunny, but I did get to see new national record set, so that was nice.
I've been there over a few years on and off and never seen anyone else there either.
It is a bit vegetated, but I suspect its just not 'cool' and 'fashionable' to go there.
I was talking about beeston yesterday actually. Great crag, especially at this time of year.
I'd happily head up there myself but i'm feeling weak after an injury. Really want to do black grub
We were thinking this on Saturday, with the whole of Clogwyn Bochlwyd to ourselves, and ruminating how great it is! Climbing has become mainstream, and yet it is easier than ever to find a deserted crag, with peace and quiet and fantastic routes... :-) Yippeee!!! :-)
I couldn't believe how good it was at the plantation boulders especially after getting battered by the winds walking around the reservoir.
Glad other people got there to enjoy it later.
Out of interest, does anyone know the hardest limestone trad route in the UK? I'd be interested to know.
Yes, it was very windy when I arrived at Burbage North car park so a quick change of plan lead to us climbing on Carl Wark.
We had a great day out of the wind and lots of sun up until 3.00pm when the cliff went into the shade.
Some people climbing on Burbage North and South but fewer than normal for a Sunday.
Nope, there were only 6 people at The Edge in Sheff late afternoon yesterday.
You mean like they were originally climbed?
> Out of interest, does anyone know the hardest limestone trad route in the UK? I'd be interested to know.
Always keen to let others test the freeze thaw effect on the limestone early spring!
I have climbed a fair bit at Beeston over the years and absoluteley love it - mega crag for E3. However the last time I did Catharsis (and it was some time ago!) I got severely frightened on the top - really grassy/dirty etc etc.
It could do with a clean up - but probably dirtier than usual due to lack of traffic.
They were probably too worried about people running off with their trainers.
pembroke still has two or three visitors on a bank holiday weekend.
> They were probably too worried about people running off with their trainers.
For sure I kept mine in sight at all times!
So you never saw my reply to Chris's (now lost) identical topic on Sunday night? Which said something like 'Too scared of borrowing your trainers when you weren't even there'... ;-)
When we were there 2 weeks ago there were queues for the classics (Christmas Curry, One Step in the Clouds, the Plum) and several teams on more obscure routes as well.
The last definitive guide to Beeston Tor is (a) 23 years old, and (b) out of print. Coincidence?
We wondered that last summer when we had a warm & sunny Wildcat to ourselves That would never have been the case 15-20 years ago. Trad limestone seems to be unfashionable these.
I suspect everyone was either indoors (as an aside, I can't belive how many people at the local wall have never climbed outdoors) or bouldering.
Beeston is a little beyond me currently but I loved it there years ago and it's one of my aims after restarting climbing to get back up to speed enough to go there again.
Yes I saw your reply, I was in the process of uploading the Beeston crag-shot to UKC so the other thread could be deleted.
> The last definitive guide to Beeston Tor is (a) 23 years old, and (b) out of print. Coincidence?
Northern Limestone is also out of print now (we didn't do enough!) so the situation is only likely to get worse!
A sad reflection on the 'no star' guidebook experiment is that you know exactly which half dozen routes will have the queues on them. Lets hope the new guide proves more of an inspiration.
We were persuaded by the Rockfax allocation of 2 stars to Hail Bebe to give it a try, despite the CC guide calling it 'poor' - and we agreed with Rockfax :)
I can never remember it heaving. I think generally limestone is not as popular. You could get a clear run at stoney all year round now, not like the old days.
When ever I pass Stoney, I've noticed it's usually deserted but a few hundred yards up the road people are struggling to park for Horseshoe, even in really great weather. Sums it up I suppose.
No, he is right, it does sum it up. Folks would rather clip bolts in a grotty quarry as opposed to doing trad classic on natural limestone.
all the better for us!!!!!
Let them pile up in grotty places I say...if there's one thing I don't like is busy venues. If I want to see people I stay in Glasgow city centre =(
Sod the social aspect...
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