In reply to gcandlin: buy another pair of salomons. full stop. for several years i wore 5.10 s but got sick of them falling apart and the sticky soles wearing out really quickly, they look pretty , make a life style statement,(not saying this is right or wrong), and do the job very well they jsut dont hold up to hard extended use. i ve had several pairs of scarpa shoes that have lasted last well but the light weight ones are pants. my current pub shoes are heliums, they are really light, look nice and are comfy, but all they ve been used for is going to the pub and walking the kids up the cycle track and they ve already started to fall apart . i reckon that this summers cragging, which will be fairly limited (2/3 times a week), will kill them. i also have a cheap pair of salomon something or others , they were less than £30 about 4 years ago, are grey and ugly. i got them for none steely building work/gardening / maintenance but have used them for everything. they have been virtually indistrucable, the uppers have just about had it and i want another pair. they have a none branded sole which just goes on and on. cant comment personally on inov8s but lots of friends fell run in them, including someone who is a bit good, and swear by them, most say (as above) that they wear out quick, so imho that means that they d make rubbish approach shoes unless cost isnt an issue .