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I understand there's a new CC guide out but have missed the reviews. Has anyone bought it - if so, what do you think?

Can you find climbs and follow routes more easily than with the old book...?

Can anyone post a link to a review on here or somewhere?

Thankee

In reply to James B: http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=427533

In reply to remus: Thanks

In reply to James B:

An actual review is here:
http://tohatchacrow.blogspot.com/2010/09/climbers-club-tremadog-guidebook-r...

And details of the guide are here:
http://www.climbers-club.co.uk/guidebooks/ci-wales-tremadog.html

In reply to James B:

It's still hard to find the bottom of routes- that's becuase it's always going to be hard at Tremadog.

The bottom of routes are obscured in photos by the trees. My advice is to locate the right area of crag from the road before diving in amongst the trees. At least then you can be on the right buttress to start looking for the fine detail in the route description.

In reply to Ander: the new guide has small photos showing the bottom of some of the routes.

good guide. main thing is the stars are back! so all the forgotten classics that didnt make NWrock can be climbed again

In reply to Ander:
... to start looking for the fine detail in the route description.

As long as the route descriptions are better than in the old guide I'll be happy. I seem to remember a couple of route descriptions beginning:

Route X: start to the right of Route Y
Route Y: start to the left of Route X

?

In reply to Sterling:
Had a look at this link
http://www.climbers-club.co.uk/guidebooks/ci-wales-tremadog.html and am intrigued as to why the second on Vector is belayed at the top of the ochre slab. Is this the modern way of doing the route or just how these two did it? I remember traversing left to belay in the cave (also on Nimbus). Uncomfortable but that's how it was described.

In reply to philmorris: yea its odd that pic... when i did it we used the cave too.. an the new guide says the belay is in the cave. must be just them.

In reply to adam06:

maybe they were thinking outside the box

In reply to Dark Mavis:
Kids these days have no sense of history - if belaying in the cave was good enough for Brown, then it's good enough for me.

In reply to philmorris:

Like hemp ropes, big boots, and no runners?

In reply to philmorris:
Yes, you can belay in either location quite comfortably. I prefer the cave though. Some even choose to abseil off from the cave after having done the Ochre Slab pitch.
Perhaps there was someone else belayed in the cave already?
No idea really, lets just assume it was how they chose to climb that day, for whatever reason...