/ Ice holds and indoor dry tooling
Has anyone got any experience of these from TCA?
Or are we better off just sticking some carpet behind our existing holds and hooking?
Oh incase it makes any difference to the replies; the wall is vertical and about 7m high.
blackpool towers had a 'tooling comp a few weeks ago and I was there while they were preping the routes. it looked like they were setting routes with these 'ice-holds' but can't be sure. Bet if you keep bumping this thread someone who competed in the comp will pop up...
<either that or attempt an email to the towers HQ, council run though so don't expect too much from them!>
and during all of the comp only one hold broke.
Bits of carpet was put behind the holds to protect the wall.
A good idea is to keep tooling holds apart from normal use holds as bits are sometimes chipped off with the picks.
The Ice Factor has trialed the Ice Holds and found them fairly hopeless. The material is very dense, so you need scalpel-sharp picks and a forceful, stabbing swing to make them stick. Hooking doesnt really happen, as the features arent deep enough or shaped enough; cant see anyone ever cutting loose on them!
I'd just go with the old holds and carpet approach, but do be aware that the holds wont be much use for anything else after!
Pinnacle Climbing Centre in Northampton had an evening of dry tooling which was awesome fun:-)
There are some pictures on their web site and you can see how they set the holds on to plywood. They also made some special jamming hooking holds from plywood.
Another thing they did was to hang some drilled wooden blocks from the overhangs to make things a little more interesting.
One point to note though is that that used older holds and set totally different routes for the evening
Have a look at the pictures here http://www.thepinnaclecentre.co.uk/album.php?album=events_courses_and_facilities&albumtitle=even...
(I hope that works !)
The evening went so well they're doing a whole weekend of it in November, can't remember the dates tho. Great workout before the real stuff arrives.
Cheers Jamie, that was sort of what I expected.
In terms of hold selection, is there any benefit to using larger holds? I was thinking of keeping the tooling holds as mostly small positive screw-ons to keep the cost down.
Also when setting problems that require stein pulls and the like are there any holds to avoid as we don't want too many shattering under the strain!
I was at the blackpool comp. They just had standard climbing holds, non of the ice things.
I would stick to the carpet method and use the money saved to replace any holds that get knackered by the end of the winter (which I reckon will be not as many as you think).
Also, why not use some small logs (or big ones) to add a bit of dimension to the routes, you can either drill holes into the logs for placing axes or if its a bigger log you can swing your axes into them.
You'll get the idea if you have a look at my photo gallery as there are a couple of tooling comp photos in there.
hope thats helpful.
No, this is at a small private wall in Hertfordshire.
How did you do in the comp? I'm bobbing down for a go next week
> How did you do in the comp? I'm bobbing down for a go next week
yeah it was good comp. some inventive routes set by Pete Hill and team.
i would suggest giving them a call before you head down as they wont let you swing your axes around of there are groups there or anything. having said that the place is usually empty and they left out spare logs/tyres which would could fix onto the wall ourselves when we got there. take a rope and some clips so you can aid up the wall and drag up them up behind you.
I've also seen some places use squares of lino or vinyl flooring behind instead of carpet. Don't know if they'd be more prone to spinning though...
The original samples of Ice Holds that came to the UK did leave much to be desired. However over the past few years they have evolved and underdone many improvements in both the compound mix and the shaping.
All we can say is that until you use them you just won't believe how good they are. Ice and drytool aficionado Tim Emmet has been using them in Bristol and you can see the results on our blog.
We'll be producing a top tips video to go with it soon.
Hello Mike, since many people are interested in trying these holds we have decided to offer a 'try before you buy' scheme where you are able to have a 2 week trial.
Simply order a hold from this range
http://www.tcaclimbingshop.com/Default.aspx?LoadContent=CatSplats-amp;Blobs&CatID=18&DeptID=... email us on email@example.com to say that you wish to try an ice hold, and we will send you one of our demo holds.
Once the hold is returned we will issue you with a refund against the cost of the ice hold.
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