/ NEW ARTICLE: Video and Photo Gallery: Mammut Athletes in the Peak District

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UKC Articles - on 31 Dec 2010
Johnny Dawes - a British climbing legend, 3 kbEarlier in the year the Mammut team of athletes hit the Peak District and racked up an impressive list of ascents.

The group were guided by gritstone climbing legend Johnny Dawes and the Mammut climbers were David Lama, Alex Johnson, Anna Stoehr, Jakob Schubert, Cedric Lachat and Magnus Midtboe

The trip was documented on video and in photographs, which are shown in this article.

Read more at http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=3306

Alyson - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles: Don't suppose you know who the Mammut photographer is? Some excellent shots in there.
gcandlin - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles: 3...2....1.... chalk rant..

Justin T - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles:

Small typo on one caption: "Master's Edge Edge"

Awesome shots, really inspiring, looks like a tour of the Hard Grit classics!
Dave C on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles: Did anybody have to explain the name 'Rowley Birkin QC'? You'd have to be very,... very... drunk.
tom_greenwich - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles:

Beautifully shot and editted, particularly liked the helicopter cam shots.

Did anyone else find the johnny Dawes interviews incredibly annoying? Rather than providing context to the climbs he seemed to need to justify something (I'm not sure what) by flagging off mountaineering, sport climbing, climbing anything but grit. I thought this ruined it, especially as one of the clips at the end made it clear that the other climbers had virtually never climbed trad and are generally sports climbers.

The need to put one form of climbing above another really annoys me and does nothing to help further the development of our sport.

<rant over>
Tom
tom_greenwich - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to tom_greenwich:

^ slagging
jackcarr on 31 Dec 2010 - cpc3-heme7-0-0-cust759.9-1.cable.virginmedia.com
In reply to UKC Articles:

Great shots, but how much stinkin' chalk do these guys need?!
seankenny - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles: Is it me, or is this so quickly edited that is becomes really boring? I'd like to see a shot of a route that lasted more than three seconds. Also there's too much fiddling with camera angles, focus and other fancy techniques - all of which would be great if used with a little more discipline...

God, I must be getting old.
idiotproof (Buxton MC) - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to jackcarr:
> (In reply to UKC Articles)
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> Great shots, but how much stinkin' chalk do these guys need?!

Agreed, did like the little bit at the end with them trying to place gear...like a whole different world!

I quite liked the editing style for a short 10 minutes film and the Johnny Dawes bits seemed reasonable sound bites... he was obviously asked about bolting and answered.

John_Hat - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to idiotproof (Buxton MC):

But why the random Johnny Dawes crotch shot half-way through? Put me right off:-)

Seriously, I think it was a good film.
Wee Davie - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to tom_greenwich:

The helicopter cam bits were great for the first three shots, but really the video was less about climbing than somebody having a laugh flying their latest toy around.
I find Johnny Dawes very wry and amusing so I enjoyed that.
More climbing, less repetitive Swedish rapping I say.
A missed opportunity I think.
Big Steve - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles: I enjoyed it, loved the helicopter shots although maybe they were used a little too much

Thanks for putting this up, I'll watch it again later
JJL - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles:

It'll take more than that to make me forgive Lama.

Too cut up for my taste - though I did find the lenses that make grit look huge quite funny
LukaszWarzecha - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to Alyson: It's Rainer Eder...
Gob_Stopper on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to tom_greenwich: Think he's just describing the core ethics of grit climbing. It's true that no one can accuse Johnny of watering things down :D
xican - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles: god that editing was annoying, and im not even middle aged...
Tris.w - on 31 Dec 2010
agreed
jon on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to tom_greenwich:
> (In reply to UKC Articles)
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> Beautifully shot and editted, particularly liked the helicopter cam shots.
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> Did anyone else find the johnny Dawes interviews incredibly annoying?

I couldn't agree more. On both counts.

tonanf - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles: Dawes magic: pre practiced, bolted rock climbing.
classic!
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Duncan Campbell - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles: I didn't realise Johnny was the last great hope of British Climbing.....?
Alyson - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to lukwarz:
> (In reply to Alyson) It's Rainer Eder...

Thanks very much. I've just been looking at his website - very inspiring!

On another day I'd say 'very depressing' but it means the same thing. Something to aim for and probably not achieve :(
victorclimber - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to tonanf: thats exactly what it is not Sporting climbing !!! bolted rock climbing.scores of so called sport routes would get done with normal pro.or people with balls..
nigel pearson - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles:
I had to stop watching as the editing style was making me sea sick.
Andrew Barker - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles:

Some novel camera angles from the helicopter but apart from that this was just about the worst climbing film I've ever seen - without the helicopter it would be like watching a "made for 3D" film in 2D. It's way too stylised - I guess it might be of interest to people who don't climb as it doesn't spend too long on any particluar route. See the Irish climbing film 'Underdeveloped' for how it should be done.

The photos were nice though :P
Henry L Buckle - on 31 Dec 2010
In reply to UKC Articles:

Dear Mammut.

Send Lama back to Patagonia to clean up his mess and I might consider watching your fancy video.

Henry
banned profile 74 on 31 Dec 2010 - 30.41.125.91.rb3.adsl.brightview.com
In reply to Henry L Buckle: i was actually laughing when dawes was talking about putting a bolt in the rock being like putting a bolt in your head,then the next person in shot was lama!!
Jerry Handren - on 01 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles:
Wow, what a complete f*ck up that video was, thats got to be one of the most over edited pieces of climbing footage I've ever seen, amazing camera angles and panning ruined by overzealous editing. Someone should inform the editor that Its the rock architecture and the flow of moves thats interesting to watch.
Jonny2vests - on 01 Jan 2011
In reply to victorclimber:
> (In reply to tonanf) thats exactly what it is not Sporting climbing !!! bolted rock climbing.scores of so called sport routes would get done with normal pro.or people with balls..

Eh?
Chris Harris - on 01 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles:
49% camera angles.
49% editing.
2% climbing.

Dreadful.
gingerwolf - on 01 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles: too arty farty, not enough shots of the actual routes!!!

good shots flying over the crags etc but could've been much better!!

and the bit with mary woodrige at the end - a bit random really??
jon on 01 Jan 2011
In reply to Chris Harris:
> (In reply to UKC Articles)
> 49% camera angles.
> 49% editing.
> 2% climbing.
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> Dreadful.

You forgot the crap that Johnny was spouting.

Dax on 01 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles:

No soul and no story to tell .. switched off after 5 minutes.
In reply to UKC Articles: I thought it was quite good fun but it was a shame they didn't have a native speaker to check out the titles. Two language mistakes in the first twelve seconds isn't a great start, even if all the actual climbing footage is rather clever. The helicopter camera is a fantastic idea.
neil the weak - on 01 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles: I too hate to be a voice of positivity on a UKC forum, but I thought it was very good too. Many great images (which would have made good stand alone photos!), some neat perspectives and the mammut guys very obviously having a really good time on unfamiliar turf. Even Dawes was mostly entertaining.
langar27 - on 03 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles: Yea kinda not forgot about how much of a complete sell out Lama is. People still haven't forgot Lama!!!!
Fidmark - on 03 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles: I liked it.
gethin_allen on 03 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles:
I think I've worked out why Calum and co decided it was fine to dry tool on millstone, It's the only sensible way to climb chalk cliffs.

Other than that all the start stop, slow fast, random focusing shite really got in the way. I really hope the person with the helicopter cam got good crimbo presents this year so he'll be preoccupied playing with them rather than the silly helicopter. Good for the odd shot but really over done in this vid.
fionn on 03 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles:

Does anybody know what the piece of music is that starts at 08.59 on the video? There's only a snippet but it's amazing!
stevemarkperry - on 03 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles:

I enjoyed it, thanks for sharing.
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johncoxmysteriously - on 03 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles:

Crap, as you'd expect from any organisation still sponsoring Lama, of course.

jcm
phnom-penh-penguin - on 07 Jan 2011
In reply to UKC Articles:

I've been away from the scene for a while...what did Lama do in Patagonia?
CragRat11 - on 08 Jan 2011
In reply to phnom-penh-penguin:
> (In reply to UKC Articles)
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> I've been away from the scene for a while...what did Lama do in Patagonia?

Oh my god, don't start that again.

Crap, sexed up, over-edited, commercialised, uninspiring and un-origional (following in the footsteps of team America, who did it well). And the tune (which they played over and over again) was awful. One helicopter shot would have set the scene, 30 was a bit over the top.

The only thing that made it worth watching was Johnny's dry wit.
jimjimjim on 08 Jan 2011

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