In reply to Climbwhenready:
From the 3rd of that post I understood I stand by my first comment on you. Your an idiot.
If I get banned for writing the word dick, so be it. It's hardly the crime of the century tho.
Believe it or I am acting my age. Why would I say things differently on here to what I would say normally?
I think your getting your arguments confused. You say we are all grade whores and that the true spirit of climbin is alive in you and the op because you don't climb hard, yet he is the one that started the debate about who is the best! How do you define best sport climber if not by grade?
Everyone was a beginner, your right. Not all of us went around shootin our mouths off tho, well I did but that's not the point.
People have pointed out to this young fellow, and now you, that what they said was bollox and the reasons why... He's learning. Also learning not to be an idiot on an open forum, something you may wish to study.
As for your experience, I gaurantee that my 5 years will at the very least match your 97, or whatever.
Cos I like a good ol' fashioned willy waving contest, and as my girlfriend will attest to, I normally win.
Best wishes
Mark