In reply to supos:
> I guess I'll be looking at the Beal, Millet or Edelrid ropes though, I certainly won't be buying Mammut as long as you are supporting Lama's behaviour in Patagonia.
In which case, I can recommend the Beal Joker if you want one rope that can do everything. I've used mine a fair amount over the last nine months, ice climbing in Norway, sport and trad climbing (including top roping little kids) in the UK and and Sweden, and in the last few months - a fair amount of ice climbing in Finland, both as a single and a double. It still looks very good - just some minimal fluffing in a couple of spots probably rubbing during a fall. The dry treatment seems effective as well. Of course its a compromise - heavier than a specialist half rope, not as hard wearing as a fat single etc. But overall I'm really happy with how it is wearing.