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 Blizzard 07 Apr 2011
Just interested, which mix of fresh coffee bean do you think produces the nicest cuppa?
I'm a Nero fan.
 Tamati 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:

I'm quite partial to a Costa Rican blend.

However, the king has to be an Italian or Continental espresso blend. Short, strong and bitter.
ice.solo 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:

stuff from the lao highlands, passed thru a $1 vietnamese filter into a little glass onto a thin layer of condensed milk.

or whatever the turks use. shot straight, spit out the grit.

everything else is a distant second place (but still plenty worthy).
OP Blizzard 07 Apr 2011
In reply to ice.solo:

You've lost me!
 Tamati 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:


Confused.

I did wonder when you quoted Nero as your favourite coffee.


Ever in Sheffield. Head to Pollards tea rooms. Select a coffee, get it ground to your choice. Excellent!
ice.solo 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:

sorry about that. i get carried away with coffee.

the variety thats grown in the highlands of southern laos (possibly similar to a sumatran?). best served on the street, using a little aluminium filter set produced cheap in vietnam, a little glass held with a napkin and poured onto a thin layer of condensed milk.

or whatever bean is used for traditional turkish coffee (or bulgarian). dont know the name. crushed and brewed in a ubick straight, so all the bits settle on the bottom of the little glass. shoot it like a shot of tequila but spit the sediment out as its gritty.

the beans important yes, but how its made matters enormously - many a good bean has been stripped of its qualities with ruthlessness.

i admit i take it all a little too seriously.
 Reach>Talent 07 Apr 2011
In reply to ice.solo:
Adding any dairy products to coffee is a sin, almost as bad as using a high speed grinder
 Dauphin 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:

Whatever that coffee is called, eaten and shat by a sumatran tree weasel/cat. I was sceptical but it is excellent.

Regards

D
 Tamati 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Reach>Talent:

I agree.

Better or worse than adding sugar?
 terryturbojr 07 Apr 2011
In reply to ice.solo:

The SE asian stuff always really darkly roasted too which changes the flavour a lot, quite strong on the chicory flavours in Nam.

At home for the cafetiere I tend to drink a Sainsbury sumatran one, for the simple fact I bought it when it was BOGOF and liked it. The machine justs gets Illi in it.

I do have some coffee from Vietnam at home though, plus a Peruvian one from Monmouth when I got carried away last week whilst buying my mum some. I prefer the Sainsbury to it though.

Whilst I may seem really into my coffee I'm not really. All the talk gets too wanky and wine talk like for my liking.
 Reach>Talent 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Tamati:
Sugar is a pretty awful thing to do to coffee, but probably less of a sin than milk in my not so humble opinion.
 Mattu 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:

You may be suprised to hear that sugar is actually the thing to have with coffee. For example, Nicaraguan locals, who produce is coffee and sugar cane love a really sweet black coffee and I mean really sweet and they believe this is the way to do it, after all, they do produce the stuff.

(Source - Personal experience drinking sweet coffee)

 terryturbojr 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Mattu:

Aye, loads of the coffee growing nations cane the sugar in it.

I've always been a sugar free man but during 7 months in Asia a couple of years back I got used to it as everyone would stick it in but have reverted back to sugar free now. Can't get my head around milk in coffee though.
ice.solo 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:

i like to tweak coffee according to my state of mind. sometimes milk if i want to take the edge off, sometimes sugar to put the edge on.

rarely both, but not unknown. bit of a party mix really.

dont mind soy as i like the nutty taste.

where i live theres a new coffee every week - always good to experiment. in the last few days ive had cherry blossom coffee, gingerbread coffee and strawberry caramel.

you only live once.
In reply to Blizzard:
> I'm a Nero fan.

On the high street I'll head to Cafe Nero for choice if there's one available.

My own favourite is Java. I used to love the Sainsburys TTD java but they stopped selling this when they went ethical and having been through what's on offer from Tesco, Asda and Morrisons without finding a decent replacement I now find myself having to go to the nearest Waitrose (which isn't that close) and getting their Java, which is very nice.

Though when I'm in Booths I'll get some of their Italian blend, which is tasty. And if I'm driving back from the lakes on a day and at a time when Atkinson's in Lancaster is likely to be open, I'll call in there and get a few different types. And some tea.

T.
 TheHorroffice 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:
As others have said, in Cambodia it was all about cold coffee brewed through a hessian sieve with condensed milk and I couldn't get enough of it. I tried to make it back in the UK but out of context it was rank.

I used to work in an Italien espresso bar, so infactuated with the stuff that if they thought the cows had been eating to much clover they would chuck the lot.... Personally I go for Lavazza rosso through a moka stove coffee pot. Hard to beat even compared to the huge machines. Hard water only mind though.
 DougG 07 Apr 2011
In reply to ice.solo:

> where i live theres a new coffee every week

Same here, well, where I work anyway - http://www.macbeans.com/ - in Aberdeen, about 5 minutes' walk away.
This week Colombian, last week Cuban.

> you only live once.

Indeed, and drinking good coffee is definitely one of life's great pleasures.
Bellie 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Tamati:
> (In reply to Blizzard)
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> Confused.
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> I did wonder when you quoted Nero as your favourite coffee.
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> Ever in Sheffield. Head to Pollards tea rooms. Select a coffee, get it ground to your choice. Excellent!

Now closed as of a few weeks ago.
In reply to Blizzard: I'm drinking the vienna roast Mountain Thunder Premium Kona coffee from the Big Island, Hawaii

It was the one we liked the most when we were there so we treat ourselves occassionally. Not tried the peaberry yet - that will be a birthday present me thinks.

http://www.mountainthunder.com/
I've found both of these online suppliers to roast excellent blends:

www.beanshop.co.uk (it's a nice family in Perth that run it too!) Espresso blend is my favourite

and http://www.algcoffee.co.uk/scripts/default.asp formula rosso is tho only one I've tried.

If you're in Glasgow or Edinburgh, Artisan Roast served me up the best double espresso I've ever had, anywhere!
Dr.Strangeglove 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Bellie:
> (In reply to Tamati)
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> Now closed as of a few weeks ago.

Bugger! I was only thinking about that place the other day - happy memories watching the beans roast as a kid....
sad now.
 Fidmark 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Reach>Talent:
> (In reply to ice.solo)
> Adding any dairy products to coffee is a sin,

I have milk and sugar....sorry!
 Alyson 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Pursued by a bear:
> (In reply to Blizzard)
And if I'm driving back from the lakes on a day and at a time when Atkinson's in Lancaster is likely to be open, I'll call in there and get a few different types. And some tea.

I have such happy memories of this place, leaning into the barrels when I was little and sticking my hands into the cool coffee beans.
In reply to Alyson: Worth sharing the web page for those yet to be initiated http://www.atkinsonsteaandcoffee.co.uk/

T.
 Alyson 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard: For high street coffee, I agree that Caffe Nero is the best. Neither Costa nor Starbucks have a clue what a cappuccino is - they just give you a latte in a different shaped cup with chocolate sprinkled on top. Yack.

Unfortunately I have yet to find a coffee blend which enables me to make my own coffee as good as I get them in cafés in Spain or Italy. Maybe it's the ambience! I have also discovered by trial and error that adding cream is approx 100 times better than using milk <pokes hips sadly>
 Steve John B 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard: Monmouth Coffee Company (in Covent Garden and Borough Market) do very nice beans indeed. Huge choice. Their cappuccinos are well nice too.

Not impressed with the stuff I got from Bettys though
 AndyB123 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard: Any recommendations for any specialist shops selling beans in Manchester
 Andy Hardy 07 Apr 2011
In reply to AndyB123:

I get my "mellow Birds" from Lidl in Cheadle. Well it's Lidl's own brand, but nearly as good.

HTH
craigloon 07 Apr 2011
In reply to ice.solo:

Don't know anything about Lao coffee, but I do know my Turkish! In Turkey, this is usually made from pure arabica beans, but just about any type will do. The secret is in the grinding, which has to be extremely fine, almost a powder. This will allow the grit to settle to the bottom as sludge, but the liquid part will be full of flavour. Usually boiled in a small pot with a long handle, with or without sugar to taste.

You're wrong about shooting it back like tequila though. What's the point of that, except to flay the back of your throat with hot coffee? Sip gently and enjoy. Also saves from swallowing the sludge!
craigloon 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:

i like Illy coffee best.
 DougG 07 Apr 2011
In reply to craigloon:

I was given a cup of Turkish coffee in Sarajevo in 1987. I think I can just about taste it still.
 Tamati 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Bellie:

Are you kidding??
John1923 07 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:

The one that involves the worst forms of child slave labour, as defined by the Geneva Convention?
ice.solo 08 Apr 2011
In reply to craigloon:

cool. that litle pot with a long handle is called an ubick. if ever i have a son that will be his name.

once had turkish coffee sweetened with reduced mulberry jam. great stuff.

agreed, there is a time to sip n savour, but maybe still my finest coffee memory is at a road block in SW turkey, the soldiers brought out a tray of little cups and we shot back 2 or 3 each. BOOM! crazy coffee rush that had us driving thru the mountains and talking like lunatics.

ahhhh turkey, i so miss the place.
 Jim Fraser 08 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard:

Has to be Ethiopian.

Yirgacheffe/Sidamo, Ghimbi, Harrar

Superb coffees and then there's the fact that they need the money more than almost anyone else.
In reply to Jim Fraser: Well yes. However, the authority and conscience that is David Attenborough was on TV last night (UKTVweshowcutepicturesofanimals +1, or similar) talking about how countries (China was mentioned) and business groupings are buying productive land in the likes of Ethiopia, growing food on it and then exporting that food to their own countries, or trading it elsewhere for a profit. Sir David was pointing out the immorality of a world that lets this happen whilst Ethiopians depend on foreign aid to have enough food to live.

So unless there's a fair trade sticker on your Ethiopian coffee, your money may well be doing naff all for either the country or its people. Apologies if this means that your coffee now has a slightly bitter aftertaste.

T.
Yes, it was me that commented earlier in the thread about Java coffee not being sold by Sainsburys since they can't source it from an ethical supplier, and yet I still drink java; but I'm not saying I'm holier than anyone else, just passing some information on.
craigloon 08 Apr 2011
In reply to ice.solo:

I think you might mean ibrik (with the i pron as in 'in' = otherwise would be a cool name for a 1980s iphone!) Ibrik is a generic word for any type of ewer. The coffee pot is more commonly called a cezve (pron jez-veh)
 icnoble 08 Apr 2011
In reply to Blizzard: My favorite coffee bean is Indian Monsooned Malabar which costs £19 a kilo at Atkinsons of Lancaster. Yesterday I bought some of the same from Waitrose at only £12 a kg. I look forward to the taste test!
 Inishowen 08 Apr 2011
In reply to Tamati: I can 2nd Pollards, but only the one in central Sheff - if still there. The Meadowhall Pollards experience is/was awful. Was very fortunate to be a student in Leeds in the 80s' when Pollards (a Headingley, Leeds based family) had their Leeds shop and café. A wonderful experience every time, working my way up and down their extensive coffee list; they even let you request mixing of blends too.
 Fluvial 08 Apr 2011
In reply to Pursued by a bear:
> (In reply to Alyson) Worth sharing the web page for those yet to be initiated http://www.atkinsonsteaandcoffee.co.uk/
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> T.

I can not believe that place is still there I was at Uni there in the late 80's used to love it.... Brings a warm glow to my heart
In reply to Jim Fraser:
> (In reply to Blizzard)
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> Has to be Ethiopian.
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> Yirgacheffe/Sidamo, Ghimbi, Harrar
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> Superb coffees and then there's the fact that they need the money more than almost anyone else.

This place currently has a small quantity of the best Yirgacheffe I've tasted: https://twodaycoffee.co.uk/ It's not listed on the website but worth contacting him to ordering some. All their coffees are ethically sourced, freshly roasted, new crop and mostly single estate. If you like a good quality Yirgacheffe I can strongly recommend you get some of this one before he sell it all.

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