In reply to Joe Dobson:
So i'm after a pair of new all round shoes that smear and edge well with a bit of a downturn
> I've found thats not possible
> So what do people recommend? I'd like to have a look at the 5.10 Quantums and Arrowheads
trust me, arrow heads are a stupid idea if you want to smear! they can providing you dont like the shape of your toe!
i'd reccomend the muira lace or the anasazi verde/blanco, i use them and the seem to beem excellent for me