...to carry water, snacks and lightweight waterproof on long rock routes. 10 litre capacity should do it.
Must be indestructible, weigh nothing, and cost £3!
All the supposedly technical sacs I've looked at are festooned with whistles, mesh bottle carriers, multiple compartments, have reflective this, that and the other, and close with zips (which usually break long before the fabric wears out).
Any suggestions for something simpler and lightweight?
You can get some cheap water bladder type rucksacks in places like Decathlon and goOoutdoors, but they do come with lots of random bells and whistles (not literally - that would be weird, like some sort of mountaineering morris dancer). Another alternative might be the Alpkit Gourdon 20. Bigger than you want, but quite simple and relatively cheap.
football boot/gym bag - although youbhave to get a flash one for it to cost 3 quid, mine cost
50p from blacks when they were closing down. I use em for all sorts - helmet bag, rock boots,
gear bag and then carrying small amounts of kit en route. too much and the string cuts in. i use
it in winter for ny belay jkt as well
The BBEE looks promising...at a price. The deuter is a good example of what I don't want: fussy design, tags and rings everywhere, mesh that disintegrates in contact with rock, reflective whatsit, multiple compartments, and my experience of zips in climbing specialist sacs is they fail well before the fabric. Acceptable in something costing £5, not in something that costs £35.
what packs have you used that have blown zips out?
ive never blown a zip on a pack (tho i have on boots and clothing) and my gear gets trashed.
mesh i agree with, compartments are a waste of time, excessive buckles, straps and gimmicks are all pointless, but shying from zips im interested in.
Me too. I've had a TNF zip up Sac (a little bit of easily ignored mesh but no xtra pockets or such like)in regular use for 15 years and the only thing wearing is the cloth between the back pad and my back.
The bag is used for everything - absolutely stuffed full as carry on bag on flights, day walking sac, climbing sac, gym bag the lot...
Which looks similar. I wonder if either ship to the UK for a reasonable amount?
In reply to ice.solo:
The broken pack zips were on
(1) A large US company, cheap 12 litre tear-drop pack. Broke after about 5 years mixed use, mostly as a commuter bag, occasionally as a long-route bag.
(2) A small specialist UK company, 25 litre day pack. Broke after about 5 years hard use as a craging pack. Company replaced zip with an even bigger one for a very reasonable charge. I'm not sure they do that kind of thing now.