/ A dedicated ski / ski mountaineering forum this winter?
I have noticed whilst i have been shuffling about on my planks these past couple of winters that there a lot of other folk have also been out similarly shuffling and sliding about. With the advances in kit recently and the last couple of excellent snowy winters it is becoming more and more popular.
So, i wonder is there any scope for a dedicated forum on UKC to provide a home to these people. I think that there is a huge crossover with winter climbers, but admittedly less numbers.
On the plus side i'm sure that ukc would be able to sell specific advertising slots to shops like facewest, mountain spirit and braemar mountain sports.
So what do people think? Do we start a petition?
Aye that would be grand!
It would make winter and alps forum less clutted with the newer ending questions and debates on "dynafiddle is not safe", "dynafiddle is the only real option" and "what skis yada yada yada".
So it might be a good idea.
Gets my vote.
I do think that it would 'get everyone in one place' as well.
I have been slightly disappointed with the traffic on the trip reports on the winter highland site as they seem not to be doing the type of trips that i do and that lots of people i know who use ukc do.
I agree it would be really good to separate out the ski chat from the winter forum so there will be more space for ranting about poor quality / ethically dubious / turf not frozen chat!
A very good idea James.
My (admittedly limited) experience with the trip reports on Winterhighland echoes yours. People's mentions of days on here tends to be of more relevance to me.
Yes, would be useful and interesting
It is bizzare that we have a biking forum but no ski M.
Already thinking about a Norway outing in Feb.
Whats up with the winterhighland trip reports? Always seems like a good mix of standard touring and scary gullies.
great idea, gets my vote too.
maybe we can start our own ethics debates - is it really skiing when you're sliding on 2mm of wet snow over grass... ;-)
should have happened years ago...
Another in favour.
Timely prompting James. Alan - another in favour... If we can have a runners section (and as one, I'm all in favour!) then we really should also have a ski mountaineering section.
James - we must make it out this winter. We've moved (Strath to Marybank) and are now even closerm, so its about time we got a few turns in together.
A forum on here would be great. The ski touring scene in Scotland is buzzing and growing year on year. Bring it on UKC
This has been a good idea every time it's been suggested. :)
> This has been a good idea every time it's been suggested. :)
And we've never had a convincing explanation as to why its a bad idea or not possible - Mick ? Alan ?
great plan, it'd keep the winter forum free for us proper winter climbers who want to know just how gnarly Idwal stream is
Yup, excellent idea.
Dynafiddle is the only option :)
Another +1 from me.
I will email the powers that be this evening and see what they say.
Ps I like Fritschi and dynafit. I am a fence sitter!
I'm a telewanker, so I prolly should not even post here.
'cause there's no websites already doing trip and conditions reports on t'interweb.
Dunno but Rakim is up for it.
It needs the site owners to set it up. It isnt something we can do ourselves. I sent an email to Alan James but perhaps he is away on holiday at the moment. Perhaps I will email one of the other people on the list of ukc people this evening.
What is wrong with Winterhighland.com?
It uses software even more useless than the UKC forum, and has less users and , hence, less information.
Winterhighland does it for me - I get the info I need to ski i.e Gear tips, conditions, weather etc. Can UKC provide more?
What am I missing software wise?
Cannot wait for the UKC forum (excuse me if its been said before)to start up with threads filled with acrimonious diatribe:
1. Reccomend me an easy blue run in South of England within 60 minutes drive of my house.
2. What skis do I need to ski parallel down a black run in two days of skiing
and my all time favourite
3. It was never in condition! Yes it was! No it wasn't! Bumbly! Elitist!
A very good idea the last 3/4 winters I have posted comments and asked questions regarding ski mountaineering on UKC. But sometimes these posts are lost in the mid winter mayhem. I would love to see a separate forum. It’s not winter climbing and does not fit within the expedition and alpine section.
So UKC management etc, here is a fab opportunity!
we need to sort out how to embed video for next season...
Been up helping build England's second highest toilet this weekend - we'll be flushed with success when we get it finished.
I will PM you on here later.
ahh, the great UKC conquest of all non-ball sports gets ever wider everyday...
Was there any answer to this? I think people have been asking for one for literally years, now, and it should take literally seconds to create one, the longer steps being porting over existing threads and designing an icon.
Who is in charge here, and how do we get this done?
I'd like a skiing forum too. I did more skiing than climbing last winter... largely because the roads were too nasty to drive far enough to climb, but not so nasty that I couldn't get to the Sidlaws to ski. On two memorable occasions, I didn't even need to get in the car-- I just skied the hills right behind the house.
No answer yet. Perhaps if a few people asked it might make some headway.
Should we start typing in caps?
Another vote for a "yes please".
I agree with plans for a dedicated ski mountaineering forum. Im also glad that others describe their ski-ing as 'shuffling about on my planks'. It has been said that I look like a climber on skis... I don't think that was a compliment...
Yup, not a compliment...
In Canadian skiing argot, "hey, Joe, ye're skiin' like an Englishman todee" is, erm, not a compliment.
Another vote for a dedicated section from me
Blurty (off line)
+1 from me
If it doesn't happen we should invade the Expedition and Alpine Forum over the winter. I don't see the mods having a problem with it being used for discussion of skiing in the Alps, and if we have the winter that is being forecast I reckon that they'll soon get sick of moving posts about skiing in Scotland and leave them be.
+ 2 from me, not because I am big headed, but the other one would like it too.
Good idea - another vote from me.
Good idea, I'm in favour
Should those who rattle around on Split-Boards also be allowed to use the aforementioned ski-mountaineering forum?
Only if they recognise that a split board is just a rubbish pair of skis which are required since the snowboard is probably the worst piece of equipment invented for mountain travel...;-)
don't think the great yaaawwwnnn ethic debate will trouble the skiing forum
Oops... I appear to have stumbled once again into the dangerous territory that exists between skiers and snowboarders... I think I should stop making daft comments about winter activities I don’t really understand!
Just remember that everyone is laughing behind yer back... But luckily a lot less than if you'd be using approach skis + snowboard (or snowshoes + snowboard).
Hi James, I think there might be a problem with this proposal however. I'd like to see it but UKC is populated by people who aren't really practitioners of the subject matter and it's rare to get a thread that doesn't involve filtering a lot of guff. The good content is lost amongst the overwhelming crap and arguments. The other thing I have observed here is that it appears that hardly anyone, relatively, from Scotland uses this forum and that's where the UK ski touring action is.
I don't want to be negative but I value my time and don't know if I could be arsed with arseholes. Maybe some kind of code of conduct in the new forum like "no crap"".
I think I know what you are trying to say and yes the dynafit v Fritschi debate is a perennial favourite of many. I think that certain threads attract the armchair surfers but I remember last winter, I think it was, that there was a very interesting and informative thread on what are the best grade vii routes were. This thread remained nicely idiot free as it's topic was elitist and if I remember it had masses of views and the noisy silly people were content to read rather than be a tiddler swimming with the big fish. Empty vessels make the most noise in sailing and in life.
I do know of quite a few folk in Scotland who practice this in eccose and the wider world and many have a popped up on this thread. I think that most ski mountaineers are generally more seasoned people but there will inevitably be the odd chalet boy or girl who insists on speaking in a stream of barely intelligible americanisms even though they come from Guildford. Those who cherish elitism as I do can either mock them with calculated aplom or knowingly shake our heads (is there a smiley for this?) and ignore them and be thankful that when some of us were going through emotional puberty the Internet wasn't around to record it for posterity.
Many thanks from a very autumnal glen coe this week,
> I value my time and don't know if I could be arsed with arseholes.
I'm kind of an expert in another adventure sport (nothing to do with mountains). I don't post very much on the web forum for that sport, because people very rarely say anything that interests me. Occasionally somebody raises an interesting point, and if they do I get involved in the discussion.
I'm an intermediate skier, so I post much more on skiing forums. I find that I can learn a lot more by discussing things that I know less about. That's the way internet forums usually work. If you don't like it, you don't have to get involved.
d00d, I aint from Guilford.
But a ski-phorum would be rAd... more so, if it was mostly about jibbin' and stuff. Like how to best do a truck driver kangoroo loop.
That would be awesome bro.
Oh, and dynafiddles all the way.
Hey, UKC peeps, set up the darn forum... or I'll start spewin' shite like this all winter on both winter climbing and alpine forums.
This seems to be most UKCers' rule ;-)
I'm up for that. I've seen a huge increase in Ski Touring in recent years and the gear is getting better. I'm sellinbg a lot of Fritschi and companies like G£ are making a dent. It's useful to know where the conditions are good etc.
Phil Tinning: Freetime Carlisle.
Sounds like a nice idea.
well said parafinn. As long as the 'if it isn't 7c it's not worth speaking about' brigade keep out it has a chance of becoming a valuable forum, till then i'm with winterhighland.
I do a lot of snowboard touring/mountaineering (yes, with snowshoes), and I think this is a great idea (provided us boarders aren't excluded, of course).
yes to the forum
yes from me too (only just noticed this thread about a month late!) and I am based near Inverness. There will be loads of Scottish skiers on UKC.
Yes, a good idea.
WinterHighlands been doing that since the 1990's!
I guess it might be important to clarify boundaries with Winter/ Exped and Alpine - how people would know where to post. e.g. if you're writing about skiing to a climb, where do you write?
That's was my point in reply to Erik B's post literally just above the one you replied too.
How does one contact an admin?
I'm sure it's been said earlier but surely skiing or at least ski mountaineering / touring has more to do with 'climbing' than biking? How come we've a biking forum but no skiing forum ......
Another one keen on a ski forum
I have some questions to ask about ski mountaineering
It's snowing in the Alps
Heute Abend, heute Nacht
Eine Kaltfront zieht durch, in manchen Regionen steht ein Wintereinbruch bevor! Regen und Schneefall breiten sich von Westen nach und nach auf ganz Österreich aus. Es kühlt deutlich ab, sodass die Schneefallgrenze auf 1000 bis etwa 500m sinkt. Stellenweise kann es aber noch weiter herunter schneien. So dürfte es z.B. in Kärnten, im oberen Murtal und in der Weststeiermark in den frühen Morgenstunden sogar bis in die Niederungen winterlich sein! Außerdem bläst zum Teil kräftiger Nordwestwind. Tiefstwerte: minus 1 bis plus 5 Grad.
Looking out my window I would say about 1200 m (in the Dolomites). Not a huge amount but if it lasts then a minimum base for when it snows properly. Forecast cold.
A simple 'no' might help to clarify or maybe it wouldn't ;-)
> A simple 'no' might help to clarify or maybe it wouldn't ;-)
Well overdue for sure.
I will post his response.
Sorry, A bit short staffed at the moment. I hadn't noticed this thread.
It takes a bit to set up a new forum but I will look into it.
Can'r ask for more than that! Thanks!
> It takes a bit to set up a new forum but I will look into it.
I can post info on conditions in the Dolomites/Eastearn Italian Alps (hopefully with help from Kean, the Powderbeast of Montebelluno)
> It is bizzare that we have a biking forum but no ski M.
Just click on "contributi disponibili" for full list of routes.
(wait a minute, should have posted this on the ski mountaineering forum...)
Posted on Winterhighland today
"Skinned from the zig zags. Skied from Marquis Wells to the top station on firm packed good quality snow. During a late lunch the temperature rose and the snow turned much softer. Skied down the Fairway and M2 which had good cover high up and with a bit of route picking managed to get to top of the Daylodge poma. Much than yesterday as you could see the surface."
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Skiing Forum should be going live next week.
Well done that man.
All we need now is some snow...
We have a wee bit of snow already in the Eastern Alps, with more forecast next weekend, so looking promising. In the meantime we have another week of perfect sunny rock climbing weather to endure.
Oh come on... bunch of cheap flights to say SLC from the ice coast...
Sure you can get cheap flights to plenty of places but there's plenty of options within driving distance too. Plenty of weekends away.
While the Ice Coast might have reasonable skiing... it's a far cry from UT blower.
Welcome to the new Skiing Forum
Power to the people ;0)
> Welcome to the new Skiing Forum
How long before the boarders are demanding independence.....
Alright! Nice one
And the Iran pics are great (I would say that)
But seriously the skiing over there is incredible. If anyone wants any beta then send me a mail...
email me any Qs - firstname.lastname@example.org
there's not much info out there as very few westerners have skied there
happy to give you the beta
aboot time we have our own forum, woop woop.
Is Glen Clova in yet, anyone?
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