/ PRODUCT NEWS: The Cave from Heimplanet
Read more at http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/news.php?id=4196
One Pump System allows complete erection with only one inflation procedure.
So a tent now allows you to be 'grateful of your experience'
Stefan ITS JUST A TENT
I think you are missing quite how intents the whole experience is!
> I think you are missing quite how intents the whole experience is!
Are you canvassing our opinions?
What is this tent for? Camping in you back garden or camping in gale force eight winds?
Looks like the fabric is a bit saggy, getting wet much? The pump is pretty large.
Anyone seen one in real life?
I remember someone doing a DT project on such a tent when I was in high school ~15 years ago and then he found out that it had already been done.
Have they actually claimed that? I can't see it written anywhere in the UKC article or on the Heimplanet website.
Does it come with a puncture repair kit?.....one little tiny thorn...
Vango have had Airbeam tents out for a year or so now. I looked at one and it was really nice build but I decided not to buy it because it didn't seem to offer anyhting that poled tents couldn't and if you get a puncture you've got problems, wheras with poles yoiu can often patch them up.
And it was expensive.
Agreed. It looks massive. When i read the article i thought it might be a nice space and weight saving measure but the stuff sack looks like a flipping suitcase. I just dont see the point. If i wanted something huge and cumbersome that was easy to pitch i'd probably just buy a pop up tent out of decathlon for 50 quid or whatever.
For basecamp use, presumably?
I represent the distributor for The Cave, and thought I should answer a few points.
Yes air beams have been seen before, but not in a configuration like this. Usually if a beam fails then so does the tent - not so with The Cave. Up to 2 beams can be deflated and the tent will still be fully supported.
In terms of a repair kit, there should be no need. The beams are made of TPU, a very hardwearing material that wont crack or distort over time, and the outer casings are made of very tough fabric.
The only way it will puncture is if someone deliberately attemps to damage it. However if this happens the inner beams can be removed, through zips in the fabric, and patched like a bike tyre.
Also as this tent is so new there is little consumer feedback on its performance, only testing done by Heimplanet. It will withstand very strong wind, and as the beams will not snap, like regular tent poles, the frame can withstand immense stresses and force.
It is a really good tent anyway, but just has the added extra of the air frame.
That video reminds me of one of them apple ads, it needs a tag-line "sequence shortened".
I bet its a pain in the arse to put away.
It basically has to be a car camping tent due to the Pump and the packed size.
Who needs to spend £550 on a car camping tent of this size?
'it is a really good tent anyway' yeah right
If you put a product onto a forum that is open to general comment then you are going to get comments.
My first post regarded the ridiculous marketing spiel that is being used.
You then tell us that this is a really good tent after telling us that there is very little consumer feedback and the only testing has been done by the manufacturer themselves. Tell me of any manufacturer that says negative things about thier products.
The only feature that you can refer to on this tent is the inflatable tubes holding it up, I don't think they are very good due to the fact that you need a big pump to inflate them. Other people may like this feature which is fine but internet forums allow opinions and I have expressed mine.
If you don't wish people to comment on your products I would suggest not putting them on a public forum. As you have put this product on such a forum you should expect comments on it.
Sending private whinging emails is pretty pathetic for any manufacturer really.
Having camped all my life I find it odd that for some people putting up a tent seems such a big thing, but for many it really seems to be, some people have even said to me that's why they don't camp. The same type of people who like pop up tents may like the idea of a blow up tent.
500 quid seems a lot for a non-very lightweight 3 man tent, but it's a free market - perhaps for some people this thing is exactly what they're looking for. It will be interesting to hear how well they fare in bad weather once people starting reviewing or just using them.
I've noticed that the winner of the comp to win one of these will be asked to write a review after using it - should provide some interesting feedback!
Not exactly 'news', either...
I thought they'd missed a trick by not putting the flysheet outside the airbeams... The OM discussion also wondered about how long it takes to deflate neough to pack away...
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