/ Johnny Dawes interview in the Guardian

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Chris the Tall - on 21 Dec 2011
Skyfall - on 21 Dec 2011
In reply to Chris the Tall:

Thanks.

So how'd he steer the car whilst not inside it?
johncoxmysteriously - on 21 Dec 2011
In reply to Chris the Tall:

Hah. I remember Johnny doing a Q&A on here about eight years ago with JCT as interpreter/typist. He was insisting then what climbing told you 'what', not 'who' you really are. Times change, I guess.

Wonder which of his Gogarth climbs he's been repeating. Are there any others except Hardback T and Conan the L?

jcm
mkean - on 21 Dec 2011
In reply to JonC:
It is quite a common trick in some circles, I think the "yoof" terminology is "ghost riding". I wouldn't suggest it as a good idea :-)
LaMentalist on 21 Dec 2011
In reply to Chris the Tall:

cheers good article that . Just ordered the book on the strength of it . I find climbers autobiographies can be a little too introspective sometimes & thus difficult too read ( for me ) , so I often avoid them . I'm hoping this changes my view some what .
LaMentalist on 21 Dec 2011
In reply to JonC:

I've used a couple of well placed bungees in the past , personally I prefer urban surfing ( on the roof whilst somebody else drives ) , I'd love to do it on the roof of a high speed train one day .

On the back of a pick up stood upright surf style is hell of craic , at least until the vehicle spins out on a bend then into a ditch , thank heavens I was very very drunk .

And remember kids its not big & its not clever !
gethin_allen on 21 Dec 2011
In reply to LaMentalist:
"I'd love to do it on the roof of a high speed train one day ."

My dad (former H+S auditor on the railways)told me that someone got electrocuted surfing a freight train when the train changed tracks onto a electrified line with overhead wires. The bloke had to be peeled off the top of the shipping container.
LaMentalist on 21 Dec 2011
In reply to gethin_allen:

ooh messy Gethin very messy 80( .

Maybe I'll take it off the list of things I'd still like to try then.
Timmd on 21 Dec 2011
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:
> (In reply to Chris the Tall)
>
> Hah. I remember Johnny doing a Q&A on here about eight years ago with JCT as interpreter/typist. He was insisting then what climbing told you 'what', not 'who' you really are. Times change, I guess.

I can remember a John Redhead Q&A, but not a Johnny Dawes one, I think you might have your climbers mixed up.
Stig - on 21 Dec 2011
Timmd on 21 Dec 2011
In reply to Stig:

Oops, my apologies to jcm.
whodared - on 22 Dec 2011
In reply to Chris the Tall:


Extra Dawes info - read how the Guardian reported the first ascent of the Indian Face in October 1986:
http://bit.ly/vGnWQj

Also The Scoop.

Cheers
David Rose - on 23 Dec 2011
In reply to whodared: I wrote that 1986 article with my dear old mate Rog. The mere fact that Binky Beaumont has interviewed Dawes again in December 2011 does suggest we were right - that Indian Face really was a milestone. Maybe in its way it was also a terminus: I know there are now harder trad climbs, but arguably none quite as inspiring. Anyhow, it's good we're all still around to remember it.

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