/ Goretex Active Shells jackets minus hoods
Normally I can see a market niche for most outdoor clothing: it might not be what I want, but jacket X could be exactly what someone else wants. But these hoodless waterproofs really stump me. I have hoodless windshells for cycling and (for me, very occasional) running - but these are normally light and rather cheap. At 300 EUR/USD, I'm really interested to know who might consider jackets like these? I guess the idea is that it is an all day, all weather shell for cyclists/MTBers and the like. Perhaps I've been so conditioned by the limits of waterproof/breathable materials, that I at least find it hard to think of wearing a "waterproof jacket" all day if it's not raining for doing any type of aerobic sport, just because I get so sweaty in them. But then again, I often spend the whole day in the mountains or riding my bike wearing a windproof. So is Active Shell THAT breathable?
Interested in thoughts of others.
I've got a Mountain Equipment Firelite.
It is very very breathable. Much more breathable than any other hardshell I've used. I've ran for an hour in the rain whilst wearing it and not get too hot/sweaty.
It doesn't feel anywhere near as windproof as normal Gore Tex though.
This gets back to the discussion we were having over Neoshell, but in what way does it not feel windproof? Degrees of windproofness is a difficult concept.
By Gore's own admission, Active Shell's durability is an issue, and so in my mind a £300 superlight jacket should only be used where the difference in performance between it and another fabric is critical to success.
Regarding windproofness of Active Shell: it is completely windproof, just like 'normal' Gore-Tex, as its air permeability is zero. It might feel less windproof because the fabric is thinner, meaning that the increased bellows effect and buffetting from the wind will increase convective heat flow.
Maybe Mountain bikers don't want hoods? I can't remember ever riding with a hood up... But otherwise inclined to agree.
> but in what way does it not feel windproof?
I mean if you go out in a full houlie a proper Gore Tex jacket, like my ME Tupilak, it feels a lot more windproof than my active shell jacket, which doesn't feel as windproof.
Nothing scientific about just how it feel to me.
> Maybe Mountain bikers don't want hoods? I can't remember ever riding with a hood up... But otherwise inclined to agree.
Yeah, completely forgot about cycling... Then again, if I'm on a mountain bike I'll never wear a waterproof so I don't have to wash it afterwards!
The wind feel versus air permeability is really interesting and I might see if I get the time to carry out some research on it.
You don't get too hot/sweaty in it? I bought a Haglöf Windstopper jacket once with commuting in cooler weather in mind, but found it hopelessly unbreathable. I'd just end up drenched with sweat. Some 10 pound Decathlon windproof works sooo much better than this thing 12 times its price!
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