/ NEWS: UKC To Abolish E Grade System
Full details in this UKC News item.
Read more at http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=67009
No surprise that under the new currency grading system, ours is still better than the American's dollars.
Can I convert my logbook to Zimbabwean Rand, to bump my stats up a bit?
Quality! Esecially this:
'"Not only is it common to compare yourself to your mates, but now via websites like 6a.nu you can compare yourself to people you have never met on routes you have never done. It is therefore absolutely essential we have a recognised system of grading that allows a direct comparison to be made across the globe." said a very thin man with lots of points on his scorecard.'
Am off to try to redpoint a £15.25, which converts to a whopping 2,568.97 ALL (Albanian Lek).
Could make european grades a bit harder than normal with the exchange rate :)(Love April)
So grade inflation will now become a real issue. What we really need to know is whether grades will be linked to RPI or CPI.
I think we should be told.
I know, one of those Tory initiatives, no doubt. It's subliminal, innit.
I nearly spat my coffee out over my Mac then!
I was furious and angry at reading this , i was gonna make a stand this time because i am normally a quite user on UKC and stay out the usual BS !
Then i clicked it was April 1st ;)
"Not that we are taking anything away from these modern achievements, just as long as everyone knows they aren't as good as what we did."
Brilliant. Well done UKC.
"we have designed a new grading system that suits our needs and will hopefully help us to make even more money out of climbers' achievements."
"Climbing companies and even climbers themselves can help to increase the grade of their route by including a cheque with their news report submissions."
Literally, LOL, innit.
Quality, and I wad just about to start a thread complaining about how disappointing the April fools stories were this year.
Winter climbing conditions blogs are the main cause for certain climbs being exceptionally busy. However blogs are a vital source of information so that climbers can be 100% sure of the condition of a route many days in advance of their ascent.
The "Book a Climb" feature to be launched next winter will allow registered users of UKC to book a climb for a certain date and time slot so that you can be sure to get the route to yourself. A Plas y Brenin spokesperson said "I am firmly in support of this move and we will be ready to police the system next winter".
Some concern has been raised about commercial users making block bookings for classic routes months in advance. However there will always be early morning slots available since mountain guides generally don't start work before their second coffee of the day.
Sounds like a good system to me!
so how much is TPS ?
"It was much harder back in our day," they all commented several times in unison, "and we didn't have any of those bouldering mats and other stuff that make climbing more fun and a bit safer." After a pause they added; "Not that we are taking anything away from these modern achievements, just as long as everyone knows they aren't as good as what we did."
Guilty as charged!
Oh come on, the game was up in the very first sentence with:
"...UKClimbing.com - the official governing body of British Climbing..."
> Oh come on, the game was up in the very first sentence with:
> "...UKClimbing.com - the official governing body of British Climbing..."
Before that even: "... in-depth and convincingly structured discussions on the UKC forum..."
I like it but suggest that the old UK monetary system would be a lot more informative
I've just climbed a £12 11s 6d route sounds a lot more impressive and immaginiative than a say a £12.62 route?
Where does Three Pebble Slab feature?
Sean - Like with prescription charges, university fees and social care, Scottish climbers will be exempt in an attempt to bribe them to stay in the Union!
(oh sorry, wrong thread, aargh what have I started there....)
We need them.
Does the new grading system include VAT? and how does that compare to other countries and their tax system? would it be possible to climb harder graded routes easier depending on the exchange rate?
It gave itself away as an April fool too early: "Following on from in-depth and convincingly structured discussions in the UKC forums"
Since when has discussion on an internet forum (even UKC) been "convincingly structured"?
Your new grading system is dead in the water. Didn't you guys at UKC heard about the 2008 banking crisis!
The true value of any route can only be establish through a barter system. I'm currently in the final stages of negotiations with Ondra to swap my entire log book for Northern Lights at Kilnsey.
Seem to remember you don't like the E grade system anyway so not much of a flight of fancy really?!
I think a "Geology student chips off the Deliverance flake" article would also have been a good choice
Are you serious?! I cant believe the arrogance of UKC! You think you can just OWN a grading system... and try and make money out of it! Pfff.. That says it all really doesnt it!
loving the fact that my onsight grade will rise with inflation!
I cant work out if El3ctroFuzz is being sarcastic or not....
Will there be a fixed exchange rate with Euro's and USD's so that we can cosnsistently compare grades with our continental cousins. Or will we vary the exschange rate based on how much we want to up our own achievements?
Great news. I actually proposed this for grit routes in 1985! I joke not and this is why the YMC guides have P grades! The idea was to do away with the E grade because at the time it was being abused to satisfy sponsors, attract members of the opposite sex or to generally satisfy ego. However, the YMC didn't feel they could go all the way and dispense with the E grade hence the three grades used in YMC grit guides...
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