/ Agags Groove 1st Belay Ledge brown stuff
YOU are a horrible, clatty bastard and a disgrace to the climbing community
Impressed that anyone could do the deed on that small a ledge, assuming that it's the guidebook first stance you're meaning?
But agreed, pretty manky. Couldnt they have seen what was brewing at the start of the route?
Or even better - TAKE IT WITH YOU. FFS, it can't hurt you to pick it up in a placcy bag like we do for dog turds can it? In places where it can't be buried its the only real answer. I hope the perp shits his own liver out next time he squats the dirty tw*t
Or the fairer sex, but then no midge bites on the bollocks?
but yeh, pretty fookin grose.
Surely an abseiling dry tooler''s staffie?
> Surely an abseiling dry tooler''s staffie?
i think we have our culprit a top-roping dry toolers unleashed staffie, only they could have desecrated the stance in such a way surely.
Unlikely in MArch/April sadly
I distinctly remember one horrific incident where I was on the 5th or 6th belay on The Pause. The stance that is mid slab and shared with one of the other route (Long reach or something). I had some rapid onset digestive malfunction and had to empty on the slab. Now, there's no way I could have collected that smeary mess, so, there was pretty much nothing I could do.
The worst part, oh, my, the worst part, was the retching and heaving from the guy moving up the other route to the shared belay....
Foul, but sometimes unavoidable!
It was at the first belay! If they had an E.S.S (emergency shit situation) then just lower off and get themselves sorted!
Whist you might have been caught out (still avoidable with a bit of forward thinking and a few doggy bags), This was at the 1st belay of a relatively short route and surely the cretin would have noticed something brewing before he/she left the ground or held it for the minute or two it would have taken to abseil off.
and to the clatty owner of the fowl pile on agags, that was absolutely inexcusable you horrible creature!
Maybe they should have put it in a poly bag and hung it up like a lot of dog owners do?
(Sorry Alan & Mick).
No, but will claim the flush, using beta.
You mean working it first on a ploprope?
At least you didn't end up wearing it.
I'd still like to have a word with whoever it was that got caught short higher up a crag in Llanberis pass a few years ago - being rained on by someone else's urine is most unpleasant, not to mention having to put your hands on wet holds and knowing full well WHY they were wet.
Nasty, horrible thing that you are!
On a sport route it would be Brownpointing.
I wonder if they logged the route?
Be worth treading extra delicately on the route now
I did sacrifice a shitty old fleece to cover the mess, token effort really...
The thread has really dropped to new lows...
Is there usually much smearing to climb Agag's Groove?
There is now!
Ahah-hah, I thankyew.
Maybe it was Bonnington. He has been known to dump in that area.
Clatty bastard indeed.
Same thing on the first stance of Ardverikie Wall two years ago. Some clat had befouled it and then put a wee stone on top to hide it/make it look like a cake. All this about 25m off the ground.
We had to bail due to rain and found the miscreant's equally shitey fugs jammed in the heather about 10m below the offering.
Here's hoping that their next shite is a hedgehog, eh?
I was fishing with a mate on the River Derwent <Derby> years ago and we used to wear pile 'onesy' type thermal suits in winter. He went for a dump and complained bitterly about the stink all afternoon and it got so bad he returned to the scene of the crime to bury his poo to stop the stink drifting over to where he was fishing. Rather worried that there wasn't any poo where he'd thought he'd left it, the realisation hit home, undoing his onesy from the chest zip and gathering it all betwix his legs in order to squat down, he'd shat in his own hood, zipped up again after and carried on oblivious to the offensive hitchhiker that was being kept near to body temprature in his hood. No wonder he couldn'd escape the stick, it were only 8 inches from his nose the whole time. I just wished it had started raining...
I thought I'd heard everything but obviously not - 'Clatty' is my new word of the week!
where other countries can have several words for snow, the brits have a lot more words for poop.
after an extensive search i found the Bonington story, very sorry to high jack this thread but it is kind of on topic, anyways check out the vid at about 6 minutes in http://www.climber.co.uk/categories/articleitem.asp?item=310
Is there a 'Tough Brown' variation on Agags?
At least his would have been frozen. I'm amazed he didn't notice though, Brians turds must be the size of a swiss roll.
Wouldn't it have been great if when he found it he exclaimed "Gordon's Alive!"
> Clatty bastard indeed.
> Some clat had befouled it and then put a wee stone on top to hide it
Leave no turd unstoned!
we found it on monday 26th (a very hot day too, just to make things worse), at which point it seemed very fresh... firm is not the word, so perhaps the donor wasn't too well, but i would have thought they could have taken care of the urge prior to setting off up the first pitch: somewhere in the gully just a few feet below and it could have at least been concealed with nobody being any the wiser.
my second was getting spooked (she has a thing about multi pitch) and being confronted with an aromatic belay ledge wasn't what she was needing. i was glad that the second pitch was so easy and brief so i could get her away from the offending heap without delay.
poor show. nonetheless- isn't the p3 move left onto the nose and up the hidden groove just magnificent for the grade?! gorgeous sunset on the summit and moonlit descent to boot...
I led the second pitch too so was glad to get out of there so quickly , leaving my second completely alone.
Eventualy we topped out off the final pitch, both in silence ,both wordless. Coming off via curved ridge we passed under the climb, briefly turning to look up.
Back at the Clachaig Inn,we quietly sipped our pints, occassionaly glancing at the four laugthing Germans who had been ahead of us on Agags Groove.
Unavoidable, but also natural, organic and bio-degradable. It will be gone in weeks, unlike a plastic bottle which will be there pretty much forever.
So why the fuss? I have crapped on the cioch, layed a cable on Napes Needle and also shat on the top of the Rivelin Needle. If you don't like it then feel free to take it home, there's plenty more where that came from.
bio-degradable for sure and it's certainly true that the call of nature is unavoidable at times: multi day wild camping demands that one craps somewhere, sooner or later.
i'm not sure what point you're making with your mention of using plastic bottles (surely that's a big wall affair and the idea in that scenario is to take the bottle away with you, not leave it lying around) and- fwiw- i think crapping in the wilderness is in fact ok as long as you spare other people having to come across it and make sure you're well away from water sources and so on. needs must... but what about common courtesy, eh?
this is on the first belay of a four pitch, low grade, easily accessible route (it's not as if someone had been stuck there with rumbling guts while their leader had a 6 hour epic leading the next pitch). i don't think that's unavoidable at all and it's a simple matter of showing consideration for your fellow climbers. like i said in a previous comment: if it was really necessary, then finding a more discreet spot with less traffic (say just a few feet below in the gully somewhere, prior to starting the first pitch) would seem reasonable to me, although others would probably find this to be unacceptable too.
you crap on top of needles? that just seems deliberately unpleasant, inconsiderate and vaguely fetishistic. or is this perhaps just a digestive system side effect of the arthrotec that you mentioned in another thread lately? hmmmm...
I agree with you. Yeah, sounds like some kind of perverse climber's scent marking on high points, like a fox does on divots. Speaking as a man with ulcerative colitis, (and therefore very challenged when it comes to bowel control!), I can say I am usually a lot more considerate and relatively more 'planned' than that as a consequence. Odd if you ask me.......
Cheers - John
You better watch or Bear Gryllis will rip off your new extreme sport in the next "Master of Movement" video.
Wait a minute... You are not suggesting THEY are behind (snigger) this dreadful doing? Is this sort of thing not covered by the Geneva Convention? Can you imagine the reaction is we Brits started dumping all over the Alps...
> YOU are a horrible, clatty bastard and a disgrace to the climbing community
Filthy buggers. honestly if you pack it in you pack it out.
On a side note if you ever want to experience pure filth get yourself over to Dover Island in Canada those blokes have hiding shit in a crack, under a rock, behind a bush, smeared down the route down to an art. Filthy Filthy gets!!!
Being an old git I recall a dialogue in Crags I think, maybe C&R, about some guys climbing in Cheddar when somebody high on the crag couldn't wait.... and decided to curl one from high on the crag.
Luckily the guy lower down (I think he was on Coronation St) was wearing a helmet! But I think the splatter and odour probably stayed with him for some time, prompting the letter to the editor (no UKC forum then!)
I think SW expert Nipper Harrison was accused, but I can't remember if anything was ever proved or admitted. I think what had caused most offence was the laughter on realising the direct (s)hit!
An apology and a beer later might have been better.
Aha....maybe the filthy huns, having been beaten in two world wars and one world cup, thought that they would wreak their revenge by dropping their bombs in the great scottish outdoors?
Someone should point out to them that it was ENGLAND who kicked their teutonic butts in 1966 (though the jocks did allegedly play a limited role in the other two conflicts).
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