/ Paramo Velez v Velez Adventure Light Jackets
Does anyone have experience of using the Velez and Velez Adventure Light jackets? I've been told that there is no difference in performance between the two; and that the only difference is the sewed in hood and lighter material on the adventure light, which is perhaps less durable than the velez. Are they both identical performance wise? or is one more advantageous than the other? Your comments would be appreciated.
There are actually 3 products: Velez (detachable hood, standard fabric), Velez Adventure (fixed hood, standard fabric), and Velez Adventure Light (fixed hood, lightweight fabric). The lightweight fabric offers less insulation, which may be a plus or a minus depending on what you want to use it for.
I've never seen any quantitative measure (such as TOG ratings). What are you wanting to use it for?
I believe so, but again, I've not seen any data to support this.
I can't comment on the different fabrics but as you mentioned waterproofing I don't regard the velez design as being particularly good in heavy rain. The neck and side zips will let in water if you end up in driving rain. I think of mine as a very warm windproof that keeps off most of the rain, but I wouldn't choose one if I was after a good quality waterproof.
I have the Valez Smock with detachable hood (owned for say 8yr)
I also have the Adventure Light sewn in hood (owned for say 1 yr)
I use the heavier Valez for winter with Cascada pants.
The Adventure Light is much shorter in the body round the front, ie yr goolies get chilled. I use this above 6 Deg C calmer weather.
The Adventure Light also makes a good cycling jacket as the sleeves are longer.
The adventure light is cooler in a cold wind. However its seems as good as the Valez at keeping water out.
I don't find the Velez ideal for winter: I like to fill my pockets with spare hats, gloves, map etc., and the single chest pocket isn't big enough.
Also the hood is a fraction on the small side over a helmet.
I'm not sure it's the zips? I've stayed as dry as could be expected when fully togged up in rescue kit (Velez, paramo trouser plus harness) in foul weather and out all day - but got wet through to skin with just the jacket and running kit a few weekends ago in similar conditions but only out for a few hours. So my conclusion was it was getting blown up the bottom or wicked in somewhere... or maybe the zips just aren't so exposed when you stick a harness over the top?
Gavin here is a pic album of me in Valez Smock Cascada Pants.
Heavy Rain all day, belaying squating in puddles. My feet were damp the rest of me bone dry, no sweat either. I was most impressed, as my partner was soaked.
Been using the Velez Adventure smock all this winter in preference to my much heavier Aspiro smock.
The hood as you say isn't as good over a helmet and the wrist closers being only velcro do not have the additional poppers.
It's also a lot shorter and as someone has already mentioned doesn't protect your lower torso so well, it also works out of your harness if you are not carefull!
It is however a lot lighter for carrying in your rucksack and less bulky so you can see your harness and much better without the irritating Aspiro pit zips that constantly opening.
The lighweight version is definitely not as durable and the unless it was a least 200 grams lighter I'd give it a miss for proper climbing!!!!
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