/ Orange P7 in need of TLC
1) New crank bearing (wobbles like billio)
2) New crank set (2 of the three rings are worn)
3) New chain (terrible state)
4) New cassette (least said the better)
5) New pads front and back (wouldnít stop a fart)
I have no idea of whatís good or not so advice would be greatly appreciated. Donít want bargain basement because Iíll only end up breaking it. On the other hand I have a mortgage, a girlfriend with a handbag fetish, and a van to pay for so uber cash isnít an option. So what I need is a few pointers to bits that are the unsung heros of the MTB world, the kind of bits that will get the approving nods from fellow bike geeks, for being the sensible options.
This is where a good LBS comes in especially if you're already a customer. Go along, let them know what you need and, don't be shy, ask for a deal. A friend of mine was given an old Kona Explosif - LBS had an entire LX gruppo from a couple years earlier (but still brand new) - he bagged the lot, plus a few odds 'n sods for less than 200 squids.
Of course things are complicated by the new 2x10 setups which would mean new derailleur shifters etc,your choice.
Don't get hollowppin chain,not worth the weight saving I broke mine twice and went back to solid - no probs.
Are you looking for new pedals cos you cannot go far wrong with anything. From superstar components. I have the maglite ultrasound with ti axles,light as a feather,tough as old boots and very being - what's not to like.
Have fun buying and building.
For things like Bottom Bracket and headset etc you cannot go much worse than Hope - their warranty (and customer service) is exemplary. you pay a bit more than it's (inferior in most instances) competitors but they do go the extra mile for when things go wrong, which isn't often!
Chains are much of a muchness really but David is right Hollowpins are made of toffee. Go for a KMC or SRAM (I found Shimano wore quicker than these).
What brakes have you got as a lot can be said for Hydraulic disc brakes (even the cheap ones are better than most mechanical brakes).
I would pay the premium to get Orange to do the respray as they can be a little bit funny with warranty if you get a third party to do it N.B. if the warranty is expired you won't go far wrong using a company called Argos (not the cheap catalogue shop on the high street!)
Happy building. I enjoyed every moment of building my P7 up and hope it will last me many years to come!
Steel is real, anything else is just an inferior matierial!
I owned a P7 for about 10 years. Every 2/3 years I'd take it over to Holywell Green and get it sprayed in ther latest colours. Back in the mid 90's they only used to charge me 50 quid - bet it's a bit more now ;-)
A word of warning though - when it finally died it had rusted from the inside out without me even knowing.
So the OP has said he's broke that he reckons he needs a new drivetrain and pads and at some stage when he gets round to it he'll probably get his frame resprayed.
So far -
Recommendations are to change to a 10 speed either 2 or 1 x10 drivetrain. Which would require additional shifters and dťrailleurs.
To replace his brakes entirely. Which seems a bit drastic considering he only needs new pads.
To get some new pedals. Not sure where you even got that idea from Dave ;)
To replace his BB with a Hope one. Now i'm not saying there's anything wrong with Hope BBs, I'm all for replacing with quality fit and forget parts (I'm a Chris King man meself). Though this isn't exactly in keeping with his uber cash isn't an option statement.
Which brings me back to my original point just buy SLX, yes the BBs aren't the best but they're a third of the price of the Hope equivalent so if you only get a year out it that's fine as you'll probably not get more than 3 years out of the Hope one. Plus if you're careful it is perfectly possible to remove the seals off of the Shimano HT2 BBs and de and regrease them subsequently elongating their life further.
At present on CRC and SLX chainset plus BB is £110 versus £25 for the BB and about £20-45 each for the rings, depending on which ones they are. SLX level cassette, HG61, is £27. SLX level chain is about £18 though personally i'd pimp for an XTR one as they're only £7 more expensive and are fully zinc alloy coated which means they last better as they're more resistant to crap.
As to the brake pads personally I like the ashima ones, you probably won't go wrong going OEM either. Though both of these options are likely to be more expensive. If you want to save money just buy Superstar ones. Mostly they're fine, apparently, though there have been issues with them in the past. And if they do go wrong you'll get now back up service from them as, well, it's not exactly in their price or business model.
I'd personally reckon respraying your bike is a waste of money. MTBs are supposed to be ridden hard and beaten up and should wear their markings with pride. I'd also be suspect of any second hand bike I was buying that had been resprayed e.g. what was the owner trying to cover up.
Had a look at the 2x10 set up. It does look interesting, but I'm not sure the budget will stretch that far.
I think they used SLX gear on the 2011 P7 Pro, so it can't be that bad. I had actually thought of copying the spec as the P7 Pro set up but it would have to be the 2011 model because the 2012 has Race Face gear on which would make my wallet squeak!
Cheers for the advice though everyone. A bit of internet shopping is in order this evening I think!
Oh and those pedals that frank slapped my wrist and said you didn't need
Go on Go on Go on.........you know you want to ;o)
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