/ Obscure Knot

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Andy Cloquet - on 06 Aug 2012
Hi, can any one help me find a pic of the DIX knot - it will probably be a RM Commando who will be best placed on this one as it was a standard tensioning knot used without the need for clampy, clunky bits of metal?

Also, it will be utterly irrelevant to 'normal' climbing situations but any knot-geeks may well be in a headspin when they read about this 'cause it's not (pun intended) in any book, that can find, and it was simply passed down from one M&AW staff to another and may be lost in the mists.
Thanks, Andy
JSA - on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to Andy Cloquet:

Is it anything like the Dolly knot or truckers hitch? both tension without the need for any clunky metal bits.
tlm - on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to Andy Cloquet:

here's a tensioning knot - what are you using it for? Slacklining?

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?hl=en&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=M0C4ZzDiHTan8M:...
Ander on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to Andy Cloquet:

Interestingly a guy called dix has written a book all about knots:
www.selfbound.net/storiessz/selfbondage_master1.html

You've mentioned it's a Marine thing- are you sure that this is pukka-no-wah-gen?
Andy Cloquet - on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to JSA: probably - can you give me a pic of the Dolly, please.
Andy Cloquet - on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to Ander: hey, slow-up you're taking this one down a deviant detour way too early. Let me get some cosha replies, first, then the muck can fly!
mkean - on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to Andy Cloquet:
There are lots of variations on the general theme of tensioning knots but all the ones I've used seem to be pretty harsh on the rope. Most involve creating a sort of heath robinson z-pully using bights in the rope. I spent some time helping out an a friends parents farm and by the time we'd secured the trailer full of bales using a series of tensioning knots there was more blue poly rope fibers on us than hay!
Andy Cloquet - on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to mkean: yea, you're right except this one doesn't do anything than what it says.

I have used it but my problem is, as you can read, I have lost all knowledge of how it was formed (not that there will be a likely situation for its application or use) and in a field test we had a Discovery on full torque pulling a tied of climbing rope: there was no rope deformity.

The fun bit was putting a piece of hand held, tightened cord against the tensioned rope and after three rubs it ripped the sheath and leaving only a few twines of the kern.
I'll keep searching, Andy
Carolyn - on 06 Aug 2012
andic - on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to Carolyn:

Thats different to the one I was shown back in the day, but the same sort of thing.

mine goes like this

take a small bight of rope ~2-3" a couple of feet from you attachment

create a hanging loop by coiling two turns of the tail around the bight

pull another bight through the hanging loop, (a-la daisy chaining a rope) hook this bight over your attachment point
pull on the tail to tension and secure with a few hicthes
OwenM - on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to andic: What you're describing is what I've always understood as a truckers hitch (and I'm a trucker so should know). What that is in the link I don't know but it's not a truckers hitch as used by truckers daily up and down this country.
Carolyn - on 06 Aug 2012
In reply to OwenM:

That's Americans for you....

That site also has the handcuff knot in their section on rescue knots. I'm a little uncertain of its application in mountain rescue!
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Baron Weasel - on 06 Aug 2012

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