/ Why are we doing Jetboils job?

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STWright - on 13 Sep 2012
Any one else noticed that the competition " Jetboil Recipe Competition: Calling All Outdoor Chefs", is basically Jetboil getting UKC and over internet users to do there job.

Yes there are giving away a prize but it's only ONE Sumo, cost to Jetboil roughly 60 (RRP 130 is not what it costs to them)? I don't mind giving them the recipe for a comp but then having to go into the exact ingredients (in grams!), calorie count etc is ridiculous.

Normally comps ask a pretty easy question and they get your email address for marketing purposes. Jetboil are literally getting a free recipe book for there product which will then probably end up costing more than a normal recipe book because it's designed specifically for Jetboil.

Just thought I'd throw this one out there!
snoop6060 - on 13 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:

WTF?

Don't submit if you don't think it's worth it. I thought anyone who gets in gets a sumo, so its not just one prize, its one per recipe accepted.

Unfortunately, i'm not sure my strong yorkshire tea recipe is that ground breaking tho.
victim of mathematics - on 13 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:

I agree. It's ridiculous that they are placing such burdensome requirements in order for you to enter their competition. It's a disgrace that you have to do more than just give them your name and expect to win something. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!
danm - on 13 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:

Thanks for the free bump!

The Jetboil Team
The Lemming - on 13 Sep 2012
In reply to danm:
> (In reply to STWright)
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> Thanks for the free bump!
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> The Jetboil Team

The OP has a point though.
andyathome - on 13 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:
Its 'their' not 'there'. Having sorted that;
I would suggest that you do not enter the competition. They will be shamed.
andyathome - on 13 Sep 2012
In reply to andyathome:
> (In reply to STWright)
> Its 'their' not 'there'. Having sorted that;
> I would suggest that you do not enter the competition. They will be shamed.

Mind you that is just me trying to get rid of the competition that might challenge my 'tin of Lidl Bolognese' recipe.....
maria85 - on 13 Sep 2012
In reply to snoop6060:
Nope, just a jetboil for the 'best' entry, and the rest will just get printed.
jj0076 - on 14 Sep 2012
Surely this has got to be a troll?? Are you kidding? Jetboil make camping stoves and therefore their job is making stoves and providing instructions on how to use them. Their job is not to teach you how to cook nice food. Its like saying I'm not entering a Canon/Nikon photography competition anf giving them photos to put on their website or use in adverts, that's their job.

Ok so its not the best sounding competition but really? Get over it.
Wiley Coyote - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:
The OP has a point. Comps used to be a marketing ploy either to harvest names for mailing lists which could then be used for mailshots and/or sold on to other companies or else they were a promo to get a cheap page in a magazine (or these days website) for brand recognition. Increasingly they are a way of getting free content, especially pix for photo libraries.
Often all entrants to photo competitions have to assign copyright in their entries to the organisers. Recently one of the publicly-funded tourist boards ran just such a comp. In return for their possibly using your pic in an exhibtion they got the right to not only use it free themselves ad infinitum but also the right to sell it to whoever they liked, for whatever purpose they liked, as often as they liked for as long as they liked. The photographer lost all control over their work and got precisely zilch.
Under those rules a photographer submitting, say, a pretty landscape would have no redress if, to take an extreme (albeit perhaps unlikely) example their photo popped up on a BNP ad saying "Defend our green and pleasant land against coloured immigration". Did they really realise they had signed up to that possibility? I suspect not.
peas65 - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:

Surely this is an impossible task anyway, i have never been able to do anything but boil water as anything else burns straight to the bottom of the Jetboil and you cannot get it off again.
victim of mathematics - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to Wiley Coyote:

It's a question of economics. If the reward to the company (either through increased profile or user-generated content of some sort) doesn't justify the prize they're offering, then they won't run the competition - why would they?

Similarly if the potential/perceived reward to the entrant isn't enough to justify the effort required to enter, then they won't enter.

Competitions are a perfectly legitimate and sensible way for manufacturers to get something, but if the reward they put up isn't good enough, nobody will enter.

As for dodgy clauses in the small print, it's just caveat emptor isn't it? Sensible people who read such things will stay away, and stupid people will get caught out. So what?
Scarab9 - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:
I agree. A jet boil for the winner, fair enough though personally I couldn't be bothered once I saw the calorie count and write a story but on top of the recipe...not to mention without a jet boil if struggle to write fill instructions on cooking it....
....but nothing for anyone else who's entry is used in the book? Surely a free book would be fair
winhill - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to peas65:
> (In reply to STWright)
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> Surely this is an impossible task anyway, i have never been able to do anything but boil water as anything else burns straight to the bottom of the Jetboil and you cannot get it off again.

I think that's the point, so they can say that it is possible to cook in a jet boil, look we even haz recipes and evryfink.

They just need to find someone that does actually cook with it.
Michael Ryan - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:

All those who have their recipes published in the Jetboil cookbook will get a copy of the cookbook, and will be credited.
Alex Slipchuk on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright: brilliant for mushroom tea. You can simmer, top up and walk (crawl) at the same time. I especially like the coffee press add on as it stops you getting the boke when the sillypsybes catch on the back of your throat. Where's the entry form?
Alex Slipchuk on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright: as for calorie count. Check out turnbull's bivi book. Or use rule of thumb 1kg of food minus water content equates to so roughly 5000 Kcalories (based on balance of protein, fat and carb). I think this is a good idea. It would remove the negative impression of jet boil's boiling water only image.
Alex Slipchuk on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright: can someone post the link so i can win the prize. I use my my flash every other day. Several years working in 5 star and fine dining hotels taught me how to cook to impress. I may even reveal the simmer secret!
Michael Ryan - on 14 Sep 2012
EeeByGum - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright: Well done for advertising the. I didn't know what a Jetboil was until you highlighted it.
ads.ukclimbing.com
Scarab9 - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKC and UKH:
> (In reply to STWright)
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> All those who have their recipes published in the Jetboil cookbook will get a copy of the cookbook, and will be credited.

that's cool then.
Alex Slipchuk on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKC and UKH: cheers mick
Darkskys - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKC and UKH: Hahahahaa, best post I've read for sometime. If you think it's an OUTRAGE, get a subscription to Trail and get a free stove :)

BOOM!
wilkie14c - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:
I don't need a book to tell me what to do with boiling water! I'll quite happily be a heathen while everyone is eating gormet meals on the hill and I'm stuck with supernoodles and a mug of tea
Still, its all abut choice isn't it? You have the choice to contribute or not. I don't see the value of it so choose not to contribute. Mind was made up after reading half the article and now I'll move on to more important things in life like what flavour supernoodles shall I have for tea tonight. As for the book, well the print run would have to be so small for such a specialised market in an already saturated subjuct <cookery> I would expect Lyon to have the book as a free download anyway
blob737 - on 14 Sep 2012
In reply to STWright:

My most favourite part of the competition, is that in order to enter, and recieve a FREE jetboil, you must already have purchased a jetboil.....

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