/ Insulation Advice
Booked on to a winter skills course this coming Jan. Trying to decide if I should get:
- full on down jacket
- lightweight down jacket (which could go under a shell)
- synthetic layer
In particular, concerned about getting it wet while snowholing, but not sure how cold it'll be inside.
All views appreciated.
If you want to be sure, get a primaloft jacket with a hood. You can use it as a belay jacket when climbing and as a extra layer in the evening if needed. You shouldn't really need a big insulation layer when active.
It's the "when not active and in a snowhole" I'm worried about.
Having never done it, I have no idea on how cold it gets.
What's the done thing?
Yep - scotland.
Dan's review here: http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=4457 will give you some ideas.
i have an old rab belay jacket and a old photon hoody jacket, both are excellent for this sort of thing. The new versions of these jackets have more insulation, the new photon being comparable with the old belay jacket, so the new photon would probably be enough. You don't want too much as scotland probably won't be really cold and primaloft is heavier and doesn't pack as well as down.
for specs have a look at:-
> It's the "when not active and in a snowhole" I'm worried about.
> Having never done it, I have no idea on how cold it gets.
Inside an inhabited snowhole it's not particularly cold, and even less so whist digging it. You will, however, get wet from sweat & snow whilst digging, and you need to change into dry stuff as soon as you've finished otherwise you will get very cold very quickly.
Thanks for all the advice.
Layers wise, this is what I'll have:
- Patagonia capilene 3 base layer or Smartwool Merino base layer
- Patagonia R1 1/4 zip
- Patagonia Araveto Hoody
- Everest Hardwear softshell vest (windproof with a little insulation)
- Mountain Equipment Tupillak ii
With an ME Fitzroy too, should be ok for standing around, right?
Walking in to climbs in Scotland I often just wear a base layer or that plus a superlight pertex windproof, so just remember all that other stuff is going to be in your rucksack. Not sure if you'll find much need for two fleeces.
It gets cold because its so damp. Damp=increased perceived cold. Those lovely sunny thin dry days are nice but not all that common. I always carry my primaloft belay jacket in winter and find it just the thing. Very versatile.
The R1 was only there for 'in extremis'. Think I will ditch that from the system.
While moving, usually just base layer, araveto and/or vest and shell in winter.
Thanks for all the advice - much appreciated.
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