/ Simond/Quechua rock shoes any good?
My Scarpa Vantages (my first pair of shoes) were either bought too big or they have stretched a bit over the 6 months I've had them, and I've now noticed that the 2cm of space between my big toe and the end of the shoes can get a bit sketchy in small pockets! Unfortunately money is quite tight at the moment and I can't justify £80 or so on new shoes. However, I could probably stretch to a £35 or so that the Simond/Quechuas go for if I felt that a tighter shoe could make a difference.
Just looking for any information on general quality and durability etc. I don't expect amazingly sticky rubber for the price, but at my indoor grades (6a+, 6b on a good day) I don't think it should make a huge difference.
no experience of those shoes, keep an eye out for other website and end of line deals etc
what size you after ?
I have a pair of Simond shoes. Rather a beginner so the fact that I'm happy with them doesn't probably mean a whole lot.
What I would be confident in saying (based on buying not only climbing shoes) is that fitting your particular feet does not necessarily match to price, so just see how they feel on your feet. If you're lucky, your feet look a lot like the models they use for shaping the cheaper shoes. Guess it's also an opportunity to buy tight shoes for a not too bad price and see if your feet get used to them (you've still got another pair).
My mate has been climbing at your grade and just a tad higher (indoors, outdoors, trad, sport) for well over a year in the Simond £35 orange ones (£40 in some branches!) and the shoes have lasted fine.
I have been using the entry-level Climb X shoes, I forget the name but they are blue lace-ups and are £40 in Go Outdoors (I paid £25 as a loss-leader special offer :-) ) for a few months and they are fine at those grades
Regarding fit, if the Simonds don't then yeah, not much point in buying them just to have a tighter, badly fitting shoe. However, my Scarpas are too baggy at the heel, too narrow at the forefoot, and too long, so they'd have to go some to be substantially worse!
One thought: with cheaper products especially there can be more variation between items. If one pair pinches, it can be worth trying a second pair of same shoe in same size, sometimes the assembly can be just a tiny bit different, and when shoes are so fitting that can make a difference.
Happy shopping and good hunting
put up a wanted advert on here many peeps (me included) have pairs for sale
(mainly 9/9.5) that you'd get for 20 quid in reasonable / good nick
Thanks for this thread, subconsciously you put the idea in my head to pop into my local Go Outdoors where they sold me a pair of Scarpa Vantage for £39.97 :-)
Have you tried simply wearing socks with them? I know climbing shoes should go on over a bare foot for maximum "sensitivity" and minimal roll/slippage but if they are too big anyway, a pair of socks and lacing them nice and tight can often be helpful, certainly at your grades (and mine!).
> One thought: with cheaper products especially there can be more variation between items. If one pair pinches, it can be worth trying a second pair of same shoe in same size, sometimes the assembly can be just a tiny bit different, and when shoes are so fitting that can make a difference.
good advice to try several pairs on for any brand. I believe most shoes are handmade & will vary slightly.
Socks for your other pair are a good idea too :-)
I am used to blue feet from the Vantages, orange will make a nice change.
Thanks for the offer of second hand pairs, but with the stank coming off of mine, I'm not sure I could face someone elses brand of odour.
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