/ Trad grades for sport routes???
You do sometimes get trad routes that have spaced bolts with or with out the odd peg or wire etc. Shakemantle fits this really, but i agree, a few of the routes are virtually sport routes.
The bolts have only recently been up graded - I think they might originally have had a very trad feel to them. Also, as pointed out above, most of the lines are not bolted in a way that needs to be approached with a very 'trad' head on
It's common enough where a few old bolted routes exist in a largely trad area (especially in older books) and quite useful where the bolting is less than ideal. From memory Shakemantle falls into both categories (or did 10 years ago).
Bolts look nice and new now, but unfortunately the place was too wet and greasy when we called in a month or so back.
They were a rather uninspiring mix of 8mm spits, screws, nails and the odd peg when I last visited.
But now they all have nice shiny new bolts with hangers..
I don't really see how it could have a trad feel to it, the bolts aren't particularly run out or anything like that. Plus the guidebook we were using was the most current one.
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