/ First DSLR
Does anyone have any recommendations for a good quality, value for money DSLR, preferably storing on sd cards as I have them coming out of my ears.
budget of about £350-400
I will probably wait until after Christmas before buying through as the sales have always been good to me.
Anything current by nikon, canon, sony or pentax is going to be good. Seriously.
People will pop up with their preferences (personally I like nikon kit a lot), but you can't really go far wrong these days.
But if you're a crap photographer and don't know what you're doing it will be like polishing a turd
And look at second hand
- and Micro Four Thirds
- and large sensor Compacts
You can pick up a 40D body for around £250 now. Good body, well-built, and if combined with decent glass, perfectly usable.
This is well worth considering. I got a second hand 20D back in the day, and replaced it with a new 40D about 4 years ago. The x0D series tend to shoot faster and have more focus sensors than the xx0D cameras, and are only a little bigger and heavier. For anything actiony, getting their mid-range cameras is a good idea.
I think you should look at the price for 1 or 2 good lenses plus a body.
For me, I'd say 2nd hand lens or two and an older 2nd hand body (my first was a 450d and it should be pretty cheap by now but it'll take photos as good now as it did then). That's me and Canon, but fel free to substitute with any of the other brands as mentioned above - they pretty much all do the same things these days.
For the same money new you'll get a new canon 1100D with the basic kit lens.
For a not too serious review look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujAwXVF_X-E though bear in mind in that video the 40D doesn't have the benefit of the better lens you'd get if you bought it yourself.
The extra megapixels don't do that much difference in reality, the lens is far more important in that price range.
Any dSLR that you buy will exceed all your expectations irrespective of which badge is on it.
Personally, I'd go second-hand and I have done this with my last two purchases, one compact and one dSLR.
You can pick up some bargains in the second-hand market as people rush to upgrade to the latest and greatest in the shops. On the whole people tend to, treat their dSLR's with kidd gloves so most will be in excellent condition.
Either way, go for a basic body and some good glass as you will out-grow the kit lens sooner than later.
I can only comment on Nikon but that does not mean that they are the best it just means that I took an initial punt on them and chose to invest my money in lenses for their cameras.
I had a 500D for hill days until it sadly died (Jake's Rake, torrential rain, forgot to shut the dry-bag properly...). It was a cracking little camera for the money.
This is a bargain, if it's still around by Xmas http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Canon-EOS-500D-+-18-55mm-IS_62192.html
MY opinion (slightly controversial) is that you have two options:
1. Buy a Nikon or a Canon brand new
2. Buy a 2nd-hand Nikon or Canon (probably a slightly older model) plus a nice prime lens (35mm or 50mm).
Go and hold some Nikons and Canons in a shop to see which style of grip you prefer. And that is it really. You don't need to make it anymore complicated than this. Amen.
> Personally, I'd go second-hand and I have done this with my last two purchases
Could I ask how you went about the purchase? Did you go to a dealer or Ebay etc.
Have found dealers to be a bit on the expensive side and Ebay well they kinda worry me when a couple of hundred is at stake.
Also, a number of people have suggested a camera as a beginners or starting out camera. What does this mean other than the cheaper price. Do you at some point think I need this missing feature?
About to pull the trigger on a Nikon 3200.
The cheaper cameras generally are smaller, more plasticy, have worse view finders, worse auto-focus systems, use SD rather than CF cards, have lower burst rates and burst lengths, worse noise in pics and quite a few lower megapixels, worse weather sealing, sometimes smaller sensors, some missing features in the menus etc. Don't think that one of the cheapo DSLRs is bad though, its just that there are better cameras out there. Cameras are a bit like climbing kit, there's always something better out there and the price goes up exponentially for the next step up in betterness.
I bought my 20D (~£250 at the time), a 28-135mm lens (~£200) and a 100-400L lens (~£900!) from ebay. In all cases I've had no problems; just use a little common sense, and only buy from people who actually write their item pages instead of copypasting from a manufacturer's site, who have photos of the item in question, and who have a decent amount of feedback, etc.
It made more difference back in the day. Your D3200 will probably perform better than my mid-range 40D does, simply because the design of the 40D is 5 years old and therefore ancient in dSLR land! The only (minor) drawback of going for a cheap Nikon instead of a more expensive model is that you won't be able to use really old Nikon lenses (see http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm ). I doubt this matters to you at all. Go for it.
Good choice that you won't regret.
As for second hand cameras, I bought a compact from somebody on this site and I bought a dSLR as an impulse bid off eBay. I put a single bid of £100 for a Nikon d40, body only, last year and won it.
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