/ building a touring set
starting with bindings then skis, then boots later on
Does anyone have any good value second hand bindings such as the marker duke or baron, which fit alpine skiing quite well ( and possibly some touring skis)? if I can get enough money before winter I was thinking of maybe buying a set off sport conrad, can anyone give any opinions on either the bindings marker duke 16 ,or the skis k2 backlite, or offer any suggestions ? thanks
Dukes and Backlites would be an odd combo. A light, narrow ski paired with a set of beasting, cliff hucking bindings. Unless you are about 16 stone and properly tear it up Dukes will be excessive.
To get recommendations I suggest you post a bit more about what kind of skiing you like or want to do. For example, do you want a do everything (inc piste) set-up or do you want a pure touring set-up? What do you wnat the ski to be best at and where are you willing to compromise? The standard you ski at would be helpful too.
Also, whilst it's tempting to buy bits and pieces at a time, is it really worth buying bindings if you have no skis to ski them on? it might make more sense to buy a pair of boots that fit well, and then hire a touring setup until you have the cash to buy the skis and bindings together, otherwise you're paying this years prices to own a pair of bindings you can't use until next year when you buy the skis.
i owe a nice set of downhill boots ( comfortable enoguh to walk in as ive bitten the bullet and climed in them a couple times) and a second hand pair of downhill ski's which i should be able to attach bindings onto should i get hold of some. i've looked into renting near where i live its just exteremly expensive ( i think work out more than a pair of bindings for the holiday), especially as ive got 5 weeks off at chritsmas and with the weather being virable so i'd need them for the hole time, then the same at Easter. Again I know hiring would be better in many ways i think its just not economicaly available.
Well, if you're after a more downhill orientated setup that will be skiied on piste a fair bit then a Marker-like binding isn't a bad idea. Unless you're a very aggressive skier or pretty heavy then the Baron's are a cheaper binding but otherwise identical to the Duke's (4-13 rather than 6-16). It might also be worth considering the Freeride Pro's (the newer ones look much stiffer than the old versions) or the new Salomon binding (if it's available yet?) if you can find any of them cheap.
For a downhill setup in the Alps or Pyrenees I'd have thought that you would want about 100mm at the waist for an all-mountain ski. In the K2 range you have the Coomback or the Hardside, and maybe the Sidestash if you want to go a bit wider. You might also want to have a look at things like the Volkl Mantras or any number of skis in that kind of size (second hand DPS, Black Diamond, Black Crows, Atomics etc. etc. etc.)
Unless you can find second hand you'll also have to shell out over £100 for skins, and although it's a bit of an initial outlay, I think it's worth buying the whole lot together so you have a use-able setup.
One option for you if you could afford it is to get a ski that will give good downhill performance in a variety of conditions and save some weight by pairing it with a Dynafit binding.
If weight is not an issue then marker barons are probably the way to go for price and security on shorter tours / approaches. Fritschi Freerides probably tour better but are a bit more expensive.
Conrad has some amazing package deals
I've a pair, if your interested PM me.
Could you send me a photo please - prob take these if they are still available. (Need a spare set).
ross dot mathers at google mail dot com
i've skinned up for a few hours my 123mm waist skis and marker barons....not the lightest but ok for half a day or so. As said above not sure why you would match markers to Backlites. Dynafits would make more sense....in fact i might even take the markers off and put some dynafits onto my big skis to trim the weight a bit.
cheers for that....they look pretty solid.
Have the best of both worlds - get Quiver Killer Inserts, mount both and choose depending on what you are doing...
It's not a joke - as a ski tech, I set up my boards to accept more than one binding, and do the best for the day. I have 3 sets of bindings (Fritschis, Duke & Alpine Downhill) and a good few sets of boards, and am not locked into a single setup :-)
Have a look at my site:
This IS worth considering if you are into your skiing
By the way - I wouldn't touch these with a bargepole... a rubbish solution unless you're doing very limited side country...
My advice would be to get a complete set up skis, bindings, boots, skins, transceiver! probe and shovel from new. it will cost a fair bit but go to a good shop and you should get some discount and most importantly expert advice to get the right gear for YOU that will last a lifetime. For me Scott Missions, Fritshi Eagle bindings and Scarpa Denali boots ticked all the boxes (Ok I've got a pair of BD Factors too). Your ideal kit may be totaly different.
But a mail order lucky dip based on some advice from UKC is likely to end up as an expensive mistake. Skiing is a big commitment not just in terms of gear cost but time and money to master the skills - but ever so worth it.
Good luck and enjoy
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