In reply to M0nkey:
> (In reply to vincentvega)
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> Another vote for paying what you owe.
I think the masses agree - me included - its just that certain UKCers felt the need to be a little prickly in the response department.
Picture this, Sarah G and others, that a new person joined your climbing group and whlst setting up at the crag he/she asked for advice, perhaps emotionally because it affected them logistically and financially. They may well be in the wrong - or not - but they were confused and brave enough to ask what might to you appear like a daft question.
Would you?
a. Listen to the question, think about it and respond with a sympathetic ear but suggest that they pay giving clear reasons from another's point of view.
b. Ignore them because you think they are an arse and continue putting on your rock shoes.
c. Flame them utterly, degrade them, make them feel petty and child-like by using suggestions like 'man up' etc.
I suggest if your answer is:
a. You are probably a well rounded individual whom has many friends whom in turn confide in you as they know you wont judge and that you give good friendly, constructive advice, even if sometimes they might not like the answer. Grade: Well done you.
b. You are probably a bit socially disengaged, perhaps wrapped up in your own crap to worry about other people and anyhow, "I dont know you from Adam, whay are you asking me this question." Maybe you are having a bad day and so all you wanted was to climb to get work/last nights beer/annoying partner out of your head. Grade: Could do better.
c. You are probably a really nasty person at heart with no regard whatsover for those around you. You have no friends and those you do think of reasons not to spend time with you. You buy meals for one, walk alone and climb solo. What's more, you are always the last to hear about work nights out. If this is incorrect, then you are a cyber hero who vents their pityfull anger through a PC screen with those whom you really wouldnt dare stand up to in real life, if real people would actually speak to you that is. Grade: Jimmy Savile.