/ Clog Super 10 Screwgate - unable to undo fault?
Anyone know of, or had a problem with the latest Clog Super 10 screwgates?
I have been using them for a few years with no bother, my friend bought one a while ago which has a different knurled screw as per the link above. Mine have a straight knurled barrel.
He bought two more last week and used them today and we couldn't undo them. Thankfully they had been on a larksfooted sling on this occassion and so we could retrive the sling until we got home and got the pliers out. Even then they were really, really tight.
It seems that they don't stop like the old ones do, and you can easily (I mean no effort/one handed) tighten them to a point where you can't undo them again.
It is certainly not his or my technique and I've never had the issue before.
Has anyone else heard of problems/had problems? They are going back for a refund/exchange tomorrow. Maybe it is a bad batch? Could have been a big problem/knife out job if we'd been hanging on a belay half way up a route.
Did you do them up under load then try to undo them once unloaded by any chance?
> Did you do them up under load then try to undo them once unloaded by any chance?
Or screw them *all* the way up nice and tight?
In fairness I'd expect a screwgate done up tight to be equally tight when it comes to undoing it, not seized solid.
I find the nasty surprise usually comes when they've been loaded and jiggled with the nose down, the gate tightens itself then locks in place when the unloaded krab springs back into its normal shape.
Even now at home you can screw them up one handed (finger and thumb) and need pliers to undo them. That's not normal. Try as I might with my other carabiners none of them lock solid so I can't undoe them.
There is definiately something wrong with the carabiners. Just wanted to highlight the issue (try before you head out!) or see if it was a know problem/recall.
This is happening without any load on them.
Will see what Cotswolds has to say tomorrow. Hopefully they'll replace them and send them back to Clog for analysis.
Swapped them for DMM's instead though.
we use those for top roping southern sandstone and they work fine.
I've got a couple of Clog HMS krabs with the same style of barrel and I have had a bit of trouble getting them undone a couple of times. Even when they don't jam they're not very smooth and need a bit of effort to get it past a sticking point. This is in comparsion to my DMM Alphas which are really smooth in comparison. Never thought of taking them back though.
Had zero problems with any of our other carabiners since and at least Cotswold agreed and changed them. Hopefully Clog will get them back and start investigating the problem.
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