In reply to Si_Hill:
> taking mine to scotland for some ice climbing in late january for 5 days its bomber.
So have you actually used for winter climbing yet? And if not, how do you know it's "bomber?
Interestingly in Dan's review he pointed out that these class of jackets are quite light, perhaps not warm enough to be a belay jacket for long waits in poor weather.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=4457 That's what I've found with both the TNF Redpoint Optimus and the RAB Photon. If you're not going to belaying for more than 20 minutes or so - they might be fine, but for belaying long mixed pitches you will probably want warmer