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Runner_bean87 - on 07 Nov 2012
hey guys just want to know what the highest climbing grades are in
sport
trad
boldering

thanks

rb
no_more_scotch_eggs - on 07 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87:


F infinity c+
E infinity, 7c
V infinity

;-)

Gregor

Runner_bean87 - on 07 Nov 2012
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs: thanks
no_more_scotch_eggs - on 07 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87:

No worries

You missed alpine grades- ED infinity sup

And Scottish winter - INFINITY, infinity....

;-)

They are all open ended...

Cheers

Gregor
rocky57 - on 07 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87:

Do you mean, that have been climbed as of now? You must, otherwise you will get smart arse answers. Oh, a bit like what has happened already.
Daniel Heath - on 07 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87:

9b+ from Ondra this year
E11 then Echo wall (ungraded but harder than Dave Macleod's E11)
8C+ from Ondra

Well someone's gotta a give a real answer...
mkean - on 07 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87:
Rumours abound of a P2500 beastmaker, surely the finest climbing grade?
tom84 - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:

ED isnt the highest alpine grade, the top grade is ABO.

oh dear, not so much of a smart arse now

x
no_more_scotch_eggs - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to mountassguard:

Now, you might be right

But I thought that ABO was set to one side of the grading system, like HXS in trad grading

So an HXS 5b route wouldn't be harder than an E 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 7c, just very loose and scary. Same with ABO.

I guess we'll have to wait till ondra does alpine to find out...

Cheers
Gregor
no_more_scotch_eggs - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:

I couldn't wait, so I decided to check my logbook*

And sure enough. I found that the ED15- I Logged (the gouter route) was much harder than the ABO.


*the imaginary one, not the one on here

;-)

Gregor
GrahamD - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87:

N_M_S_E was giving a semi serious answer in a flippant way. In theory there is no upper limit to the grade scale. The hardest routes that have been climbed to date are as listed above, although its hard to compare trad as different people use different grades. Not sure what e.g. Cobra Crack or the Nose (free) would get as UK trad grades.
andic - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87

5.10?
Simon Caldwell - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87:
highest trad grade is Great Whanney VDiff.
The Pylon King on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:
> (In reply to Runner_bean87)
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> F infinity c+
> E infinity, 7c
> V infinity
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> ;-)
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> Gregor

so what makes you think that 7c is the hardest english technical move possible?
JDal - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to Toreador:
> (In reply to Runner_bean87)
> highest trad grade is Great Whanney VDiff.

No no, Great Wanney Diffs are much harder.

alexjz - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to GrahamD:
> (In reply to Runner_bean87)
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> Not sure what e.g. Cobra Crack or the Nose (free) would get as UK trad grades.

Sure Cobra crack is very hard technically so would get a high (very) tech grade, but it seems "relatively" safe compared to a lot of routes found in the UK (i.e. Walk of Life, Equilibrium, and obviously many more). And therefore might not get as high an E grade?
alexjz - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to Daniel Heath:
> (In reply to Runner_bean87)
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> 8C+ from Ondra


Arguably the wheel of life

http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=67180
peewee2008 - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to alexjz:
> (In reply to Daniel Heath)
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> Arguably the wheel of life
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> http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=67180

Try again, it's either:

Walk Away SS
Il Pirata
Shadowplay

all by Gaskins!
no_more_scotch_eggs - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to Mr Mark Stephen Davies:
> (In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs)
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> so what makes you think that 7c is the hardest english technical move possible?


my reply was meant to have been just a bit of silliness, didn't expect it would be taken seriously, hence the ;-)

the 7c thing was an allusion to the progressive broadening of the tech grades at higher grades

i'm still not sure if the OP's question wasn't meant to be taken at face value- trad grades, scottish winter grades and UIAA grades used to be closed scales with maximum grades, and in other sports eg canoeing they still use closed scales. it isnt immediately apparent to newcomers to climbing (OPs profile says been climbing less than a year) that the grading systems are open ended, so i was just saying that they were in a silly way...

cheers
gregor
lithos on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to JDal:
> (In reply to Toreador)
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> No no, Great Wanney Diffs are much harder.

is Great Wanney a homeopathic crag, in which case the Mods should be well hard
(and heaven forbid there is an Easy climb there!)
JDal - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to lithos:

No. It's just very old-school.
alooker - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87: The answer to all is a Scottish VS

boldering is a good name for highball bouldering too
tom84 - on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:

;) and also since when did the english have their own grading system mr davies
The Pylon King on 08 Nov 2012
In reply to mountassguard:
> (In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs)
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> ;) and also since when did the english have their own grading system mr davies

today?
Thoms6974 - on 09 Nov 2012
In reply to Runner_bean87:

VSV - it must be hard, else all the beginners would be climbing gorse filled corners

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