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In reply to John_Hat:
Er, there seems to be nothing from 'V', and nothing from Thunderbirds, and I can't even see XL5 on any of the pages. In my opinion - Incomplete without any of those.
Er, there seems to be nothing from 'V', and nothing from Thunderbirds, and I can't even see XL5 on any of the pages. In my opinion - Incomplete without any of those.
In reply to John_Hat:
Very slightly narrow-minded!
No Dune, no Vogons...
In fact according to this, a Guild Heighliner from Dune would be bigger than the Star Wars Executor, and you do see some in the David Lynch film.
Amateurs! I'm not even a geek.
Very slightly narrow-minded!
No Dune, no Vogons...
In fact according to this, a Guild Heighliner from Dune would be bigger than the Star Wars Executor, and you do see some in the David Lynch film.
Amateurs! I'm not even a geek.
In reply to Removed User: non of the thunderbirds were starships
In reply to itsThere:
TB2 Was a rocket that went into space, and returned. If the bloody Space Shuttle can be on there then so can TB2. And TB5 was a space station, so that nearly counts.
youtube.com/watch?v=6ifS2nP53Zs&
TB2 Was a rocket that went into space, and returned. If the bloody Space Shuttle can be on there then so can TB2. And TB5 was a space station, so that nearly counts.
youtube.com/watch?v=6ifS2nP53Zs&
In reply to Removed User:
I think you mean Thunderbird 3 - duh...
Death Star is the massive blindingly obvious omission from those posters. Personally I would have scrapped 90% of the Star Trek rubbish and included a wider variety of sources
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I think you mean Thunderbird 3 - duh...
Death Star is the massive blindingly obvious omission from those posters. Personally I would have scrapped 90% of the Star Trek rubbish and included a wider variety of sources
In reply to trouserburp:
In fairness "Dan Carlson from Star Trek Minutiae decided he wanted to put an end to all of this madness about which ship is bigger, so he set out on a journey to research and create some infographics that showcased the different sizes compared to each other"
Unicron from Transformers: The Movie just sprang to mind and took me here
http://www.merzo.net/2000mpp.htm
16km discrepancy with whale probe length in the OP's link
I am not a geek
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In fairness "Dan Carlson from Star Trek Minutiae decided he wanted to put an end to all of this madness about which ship is bigger, so he set out on a journey to research and create some infographics that showcased the different sizes compared to each other"
Unicron from Transformers: The Movie just sprang to mind and took me here
http://www.merzo.net/2000mpp.htm
16km discrepancy with whale probe length in the OP's link
I am not a geek
In reply to trouserburp: You beat me with the death star!
Shit...... I'm a geek.
Not only did I look (carefully), I thought thats cool can I download them.
Shit...... I'm a geek.
Not only did I look (carefully), I thought thats cool can I download them.
In reply to trouserburp:
Definitely! I built one, once:
http://www.nsrg.org.uk/projects/tb3/steve_woolhead_bigears_20040501_DL%20-%...
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Definitely! I built one, once:
http://www.nsrg.org.uk/projects/tb3/steve_woolhead_bigears_20040501_DL%20-%...
In reply to trouserburp:
Trouble is the Death Star is so vastly bigger than anything else it would need a page of its own, in which case its not exactly a comparison chart anymore....
Agreed about the Star Trek sources. Waaaay to many.
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Trouble is the Death Star is so vastly bigger than anything else it would need a page of its own, in which case its not exactly a comparison chart anymore....
Agreed about the Star Trek sources. Waaaay to many.
cough, cough, Tardis, cough, cough
Forgot how cool the shadow ships were on Babylon 5...
In reply to angry pirate: Inside, or out? ;O)
In reply to John_Hat:
Smaller than a Guild Heighliner!
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Smaller than a Guild Heighliner!
In reply to Blue Straggler:
A short survey of internet geekdom indicates a heighliner had a length of 20km and the DS a diameter of 160km, so might be a tight fit...
A short survey of internet geekdom indicates a heighliner had a length of 20km and the DS a diameter of 160km, so might be a tight fit...
In reply to John_Hat:
Where's the ship from Alien or the monolith from space 2001?
I had thunderbirds 1 and 2 and 4, brother had thunderbird 3. 2 and 3 were good in bath, 1 no good.
Where's the ship from Alien or the monolith from space 2001?
I had thunderbirds 1 and 2 and 4, brother had thunderbird 3. 2 and 3 were good in bath, 1 no good.
In reply to Toby S:
sod, beat me to it!!
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sod, beat me to it!!
In reply to A Game of Chance:
Mentioned in the introductory text but not on any of the charts, I think!
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Mentioned in the introductory text but not on any of the charts, I think!
In reply to John_Hat:
Yes I just realised that and came on to try to retract my rather confused statement. My apologies. Perhaps that was my subconscious trying to demonstrate a lack of geekiness.
Yes I just realised that and came on to try to retract my rather confused statement. My apologies. Perhaps that was my subconscious trying to demonstrate a lack of geekiness.
In reply to Blue Straggler:
Not a bad thing
Actually nudged by your post, I read a lot of things about dune/the guild/etc which I would not have otherwise done... Still think the books started going very badly downhill after the first one though, and were more or less in freefall by no 3.
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Not a bad thing
Actually nudged by your post, I read a lot of things about dune/the guild/etc which I would not have otherwise done... Still think the books started going very badly downhill after the first one though, and were more or less in freefall by no 3.
In reply to John_Hat:
The first three were pretty much a single story though - a long story spread across a trilogy, like The Lord of the Rings but published separately. "Dune" does not end properly, and "Dune Messiah" certainly doesn't. "Children of Dune" ends that phase.
I never got past that, because book 4 was so far removed. Many say the second trilogy was actually good though.
But I think you are being dismissive of books 2 and 3. I have not read them since 20 years ago but I recall great things about Paul as the unnamed blind messiah, the assassin Scytale, the cult of Alia, the children Leto and Ghanima, and the Ghola resurrection(s) of Duncan Idaho. I thought all that was good writing.
btw if you like the heavy detail that Frank Herbert puts into his writing, and fancy a belting good read, try "The White Plague".
The first three were pretty much a single story though - a long story spread across a trilogy, like The Lord of the Rings but published separately. "Dune" does not end properly, and "Dune Messiah" certainly doesn't. "Children of Dune" ends that phase.
I never got past that, because book 4 was so far removed. Many say the second trilogy was actually good though.
But I think you are being dismissive of books 2 and 3. I have not read them since 20 years ago but I recall great things about Paul as the unnamed blind messiah, the assassin Scytale, the cult of Alia, the children Leto and Ghanima, and the Ghola resurrection(s) of Duncan Idaho. I thought all that was good writing.
btw if you like the heavy detail that Frank Herbert puts into his writing, and fancy a belting good read, try "The White Plague".
In reply to Blue Straggler:
I read them (2&3) a few years back, but the writing didn't "catch" me, if you like. I might go back and read them again, on the basis of your post, and have another go... they are all of about 15ft away from me now..
Don't think we've got the white plague (or at least Lady Blue shouting from the next room doesn't think so - the Frank Herbert's are hers - and actually she was the one who sent the link in the OP to me). I'll put it on the (growing) list for the next trip to hay-on-Wye.
I read them (2&3) a few years back, but the writing didn't "catch" me, if you like. I might go back and read them again, on the basis of your post, and have another go... they are all of about 15ft away from me now..
Don't think we've got the white plague (or at least Lady Blue shouting from the next room doesn't think so - the Frank Herbert's are hers - and actually she was the one who sent the link in the OP to me). I'll put it on the (growing) list for the next trip to hay-on-Wye.
In reply to John_Hat:
To reiterate - I read them at 15-16-17ish and was receptive to such things. They may turn out to be garbage, but I believe that the consensus is that the first trilogy is just fine. Get more qualified opinions before going too far into it!
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/behind-scenes-at.php
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To reiterate - I read them at 15-16-17ish and was receptive to such things. They may turn out to be garbage, but I believe that the consensus is that the first trilogy is just fine. Get more qualified opinions before going too far into it!
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/behind-scenes-at.php
In reply to John_Hat:
They've never been put on the screen.. but how about a 200km long (possibly wide also) culture GSV?
They've never been put on the screen.. but how about a 200km long (possibly wide also) culture GSV?
In reply to Guy Atkinson:
now that's a good thought...
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> They've never been put on the screen.. but how about a 200km long (possibly wide also) culture GSV?
> They've never been put on the screen.. but how about a 200km long (possibly wide also) culture GSV?
now that's a good thought...
In reply to John_Hat:
Bit of a tangent, but have you read Soul Catcher, completely different from his Sci-fi stuff?
Bit of a tangent, but have you read Soul Catcher, completely different from his Sci-fi stuff?
In reply to John_Hat:
Where was this:
http://images.ugoto.com/attachments/06d1ce7f31d4685.jpg
Or this:
http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/461dff52f0d16dc35e2cf82f66ed...
Where was this:
http://images.ugoto.com/attachments/06d1ce7f31d4685.jpg
Or this:
http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/461dff52f0d16dc35e2cf82f66ed...
In reply to Removed User:
Thunderbird 4 was inside 2 in a bit that dropped down just in the series. It was yellow as in yellow super marine...
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Thunderbird 4 was inside 2 in a bit that dropped down just in the series. It was yellow as in yellow super marine...
In reply to A Game of Chance:
Before we moved to RAF Germany my TB2 was blue and 2 was yellow, sadly my Dad decided to consign it to the bin before we marched out. irrc later models were green.
Before we moved to RAF Germany my TB2 was blue and 2 was yellow, sadly my Dad decided to consign it to the bin before we marched out. irrc later models were green.
In reply to Toby S: +1 I agree!
In reply to John_Hat: Crikey, have I just dropped in on an episode of The Big Bang Theory very geeky.
In reply to John_Hat: If we're talking about the Culture, what about an orbital, which are around 3,000,000 km diameter?
In reply to GrahamD: I recall it's mentioned in one of the books that they do have the ability to act as ships. I imagine if the Death Star was left out then an orbital wouldn't count either though...
In reply to as646:
Yeah.. the Culture wins.. they always win.. isn't that the whole point of the culture.. to win?
Yeah.. the Culture wins.. they always win.. isn't that the whole point of the culture.. to win?
In reply to John_Hat: How big was the ship in Marrow?
Other than that, it has to be the 100km Culture ships?
Orbitals don't really count. They're static. We can move an entire house, but it isn't a vehicle.
Other than that, it has to be the 100km Culture ships?
Orbitals don't really count. They're static. We can move an entire house, but it isn't a vehicle.
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