/ NEW ARTICLE: The World's Hardest Builder?
Following that, a UKC user Holger dropped us a line to show us this interesting video (in German) about Thomas Willenberg and Wulf Schneider buildering in Berlin, Germany.
Holger told us about the following video:
"At 2:42 min you will find a boulder called "FEINDESLIEBE" (EnemyLove) Font 8B+/8C, and in my opinion the hardest builder in the world."
Read more at http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=5141
good to see consistency though.
The filming, the music and the climbing were all pish! ; )
They all knew him and either laughed or were angry about him. According to them,he is a good (but not very good) climber and boulderer with some serious thruth-issues. I was told that there e.g. doesn´t exist any footage on film of him bouldering anything confirmed harder then Fb7c.
The double-dyno he does in a video is supposed to be around Fb7c and apparently quite height dependent.
The whole thing reminds me a bit of the Rich Simpson thing. Sad...
Ignorant, it would seem, to all the politics surrounding this guy: I thought the film was quite enjoyable.
The 'Rich Simpson' thing? Whats that all about?
Suddenly I want to stop watching climbing videos and get back to work.
in my opinion this is jealousy, whats your point? to enlighten the world, how bad thomas was/or still is?
posts like that show more about yourself than you want to.......
the poeple that saw thomas said that it was incredible to watch and furthermore he is a nice and intelligent person...
a climber from germany who nevern met thomas but is man enough to do his own thing.....
Call me an old-fashioned romantic but I'd have to be pretty desperate for somewhere to climb before I'd touch a sh1thole like that. What a dump!
In reply to UKC Articles:
Everything about this film (not least the climbing) is shit.
However, it is quite refreshing, once in a while, so see a climbing film that doesn't make me feel inadequate, unfulfilled and frustrated with work, life and everything.
Let's be honest, us Brits are suspicous of the guy ever since the Brad Pitt sitstart affair (which I take it is no longer disputed).
If you read interviews with him (in German) it becomes clear that he's really not that bothered about fame and reputation. In my view, that makes him more, rather than less credible. The case of John Gaskins springs to mind, who, ironically, was at the receiving end of plenty of German criticism.
But in case you're not convinced, 8a.nu has a page called "Fact or Fiction", where both Markus and John are cleared of all bullshitting. Also google for some pics of Markus and check out a (photo) sequence of him in Fatman. For what it's worth, this is not the body of an impostor.
> Call me an old-fashioned romantic but I'd have to be pretty desperate for somewhere to climb before I'd touch a sh1thole like that. What a dump!
Might be a shit hole, but it still seems a step above the plastic holds on plywood I have to train on.
An Deiner Stelle hätte ich mich vor dem Verfassen eines derart unseriösen Kommentars mit den medial verfügbaren Fakten zu Thomas Leistungen beschäftigt. Um in England zu bleiben, beginnt alles mit dem FA von "BradPitt sd" und der 1.Wiederholung von "BradPitt" auf der Jason-Meyer-Variante (heute immer noch 8a). Thomas ist damals mit Ron Fawcett unterwegs gewesen, eventuell verstehst Du die Bedeutung dieser Bemerkung. Wenn Dir dieses nicht genug ist, dann schau Dir das Bleau-Profil (bleau.info) von Thomas an. Bei einer Vielzahl der Boulder war ich dabei. Die Bilder von DUNE oder SHIVA stammen von mir. Bei der Wiederholung von Kheops assis war eine große Gruppe von holländischen Kletteren aus der 7+8 - Crew anwesend. THE ISLAND hat Thomas an einem Tag klettern können. Und ich könnte ewig so weiter machen und dabei haben wir den Bereich der Sächsischen Schweiz noch nicht einmal berührt.
Nur weil jemand nicht im Strom der Kapitalisierung des Kletterns und Boulderns mitschwimmt und nicht von jedem Stück Fels irgendwo auf der Welt ein Video oder Photo hochlädt, bedeutet dieses noch lange nicht, dass er diese Leistungen nicht wirklich erbracht hat. Setz' Dich doch einmal dezidiert mit dem Interview von Thomas (hier auf UKC) auseinander, eventuell kannst Du menschlich noch etwas lernen.
Und wenn Du dann noch den Artikel von Klem Loskot über Thomas irgendwo im Netz entdeckst, dann wirst Du eventuell den Anstand besitzen, Dich hier in diesem Forum für Deine Unterstellungen zu entschuldigen ...
Holger May (Berlin (Germany))
Joe Brown is the world's hardest builder, everyone knows that
Should have asked you instead, shouldn't we? I'm sure you could have settled the matter unhindered by your personal opion. Or by video footage and witnesses, for that matter.
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