/ how to buy from ukc posts...is it safe?
Buying things is as simple as replying to the advert and saying you're interested. It's worth looking through someone's past posts (click on the question mark next to their name) to get a sense of how reliable they might be - if they're just selling loads of kit, and aren't engaging in other conversations, then that would ring alarm bells for me.
if you pay by paypal and the seller asks you to put it as a gift on paypal i would advise saying no (but offer to pay a couple of quid extra instead)
We have some guidelines for safer trading on this page - http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/info/forsale.html#safer
Things for sale go in the 'For sale/Wanted' section or they get deleted, I think.
I've bought and sold a few times on here (only low value items), and I generally approach it as I would if I was selling/buying things from somewhere like a climbing club - I may not know much about the seller, but if they are a regular poster then they are probably ok and will want to maintain a good reputation on UKC. I've used paypal (gift), cheques, bank transfers and even posted cash. All pretty easy and amicable.
For higher value items I guess I would be a bit more cautious and perhaps only use paypal.
There was a series of problems with a specific person a few years ago selling things that never arrived, but generally no problems seem to pop up.
I've bought lots of things (books mainly) from UKC posts. I only buy from people with profiles who have a history of posting. Never had a problem.
Check they are a regular user, how long they have been registered and their posting history.
I moved it to Off Belay since it is a post that needs archiving. Posts in the pub get deleted after a while.
Climbers code and that
I was selling some crampons to a man who was picking up at my place
I had to go out, left the crampons outside, he put the money in the letter box
Call me old fashioned but we should trust each other!
Pay with Paypal if theres any doubt at all!
> if you pay by paypal and the seller asks you to put it as a gift on paypal i would advise saying no (but offer to pay a couple of quid extra instead)
I am quite happy to tick the gift box for anything I buy on this site as I don't think people are running a business like many on flebay.
In fact I did not know that the feature existed until I sold some books on this site and somebody ticked the box for goods/services/suchlike. A huge chunk of my money was eaten up by Paypal which wasn't nice seeing as I took a hit on postage as well.
On the whole I trust those that I buy from and sell to. So far I have only bought one expensive item and sold a few books.
Trust is the key to this site and that trust can only be viewed in a person's on-line persona. No harm in asking around before you buy.
As mentioned earlier, you get an impression from previous posts and from email contact whether the person is likely to be genuine or a wrong 'un.
I wouldn't be concerned if a poster is only using the site to sell kit, rather than taking part in other conversations - the way they use UKC is up to them, and they'd soon be outed if sold kit wasn't arriving. However, and brand new user trying to sell kit may be cause for concern.
Especially if their were hints in their post that they didn't know much about the gear they were selling, rather like buying a used bike from someone who seems to know very little about it. It is normally pretty clear which illicit activity you are encouraging, even if you actually do get the gear at the price agreed.
the problem with gifting on paypal is your pretty much have no comeback if the seller decides to screw you over
Likewise. I've bought various things via UKC (from posters with some history - I too am wary of people who use the forum only to sell things), and never had a problem until just recently.
A few weeks back something failed to arrive for the first time, and it does look very like the post office have lost it (temporarily perhaps). It wasn't a lot of money, so rather than a refund the seller & I agreed to donate the money to the local MRT instead.
> the problem with gifting on paypal is your pretty much have no comeback if the seller decides to screw you over
But then I sold an item in mint condition for less than I payed, obviously, and worth far more than I was asking.
The buyer told me that once they had the item that they were going to sell it on. I wan't best chuffed. I have a fluffy idealism that this site is for selling stuff in good faith and not for commercial profit like fleabay. I may be nieave but I'd like to like that way.
thats why if a seller ask for you to gift the money i simply just offer a few pounds extra to help cover their paypal fees rather than gift it (seller shouldn't lose out and you have some comeback if things go wrong).
the exception is if i know there is no risk like when i bought a SSD from nick smith
someone quite recently bought from someone on here, gifted it and then it didn't arrive and the seller didn't answer emails. if its a few quid for a guidebook its not too bad taking the hit but if its £60 on a jacket
I've never had an issue and have bought quite a bit, in fact this is my go to place to buy before shops.
Good luck buying.
For what it's worth, PayPal worked fine for the one item that I've sold through the site.
Have both bought and sold via the forums here.
(Thankfully) never had any issues with either.
Picking up my next purchase from here next week :-)
The only time i had a problem on here was when i posted a wanted ad and someone replied offering a great deal. I neglected to notice they were a recently registered user with no posting history. I got ripped off, but learned a lesson.
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