In reply to Chris Craggs:
> (In reply to JimboWizbo)
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> You climbed it in rain/hail, in big boots and carrying a rucksack....... and found it hard for the grade - amazing!
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> I remember doing Avalanche/Red Wall on Lliwedd in similar conditions and it 'felt' E3 (really) though it was just a wet, greasy, badly protected Severe climbed in poor conditions.
I did Avalanche, red wall, an longlands in dry conditions with boots and a pack, and it felt quite tasty. Great day though topping out and walking over Snowdon...
Ian.