/ Skiing/ski touring rucksack
I have always been one of these people that doesn't need to have a specific sack for every activity but last year my mountaineering rucksack just didn't cut it when I was skiing. Most of the skiing was off piste and all my off kit was just rattling around in my sack and it wasn't massively comfortable.
This year I've sold some kit off to buy a specific skiing/touring sack so any suggestions? 2 of my friends have the Ortovox Haute Route 35 and one has a Deuter something or other, 30 litres.
What size do you recommend? Usual safety kit, shovel, probe, spare kit, scran etc to go in so I was thinking a 30/35 litre one? Will also be used when doing standard piste skiing as well.
All advice appreciated. Hope you're all having a good day.
Hi mate, was using a Crux 37. I want something a bit more compartmentalised to stash things rather than having to dig around inside.
Doug, mostly long day trips I reckon, maybe the odd overnighter? If it is overnight, then I won't need to carry bucketloads of kit as the huts I was using in Norway had all the kit there.
Or something like this: http://eu.dakine.com/p/ski/packs/mens/arc-34l perhaps? The Dakine packs tend to have the shovel & probe carry features on the outside, so keeping the overall size of the pack down for when you're just piste skiing. (I use a Nevisport copy of an old Dakine 20l design for both piste cycling and cycling, it works very well.)
I'd also agree with davy_boy that the Podsacs Alpine 40 should be OK for ski touring. If the 40l is too large then they do a 30l as well: http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=2961
Cheap and cheerful: Berghaus Arete 35.
Just make sure it has proper ski carrying straps, fixed at bottom and quick release buckle at top. Others are workable but much less convenient.
might be a bit small for you, but:
open to offers
Mammut Trion Guide 35+ 7 or 45+ 7 does it all year round.
Make sure you get the newer version with horseshoe front pocket for shovel, the previous version was ok but not as goo
try trek inn.com
I was looking at this one the other day and thought it looked really good. Should suit your needs?
Another vote for BCA
I found using my (relatively lightweight)climbing pack with skis on difficult - they waved around and got caught on things when booting up climbing bits. Got a BCA and there are couple of clever ways to carry skis, it all feels very stable
Cheers for all the replies folks, much appreciated. Mike, little too small capacity fo me but cheers for the offer.
Had a look at a couple today in Decathlon that were good but back length a wee bit too small.
Our neighbour has a BCA one which is an old model but looks really good. I'll need to go and have a look at a few as the ones I have on my try on list only come in on back size which is frustrating.
Thanks again, Den
I've got one of these. It's brilliant and I used it in the Alps last summer and it performed fine there too (as you would expect - it's just a bag after all, you put stuff in it to carry). Lots of well thought out features, the best of which is the fact that you can unzip the entire back and get at everything:
I use a deuter guide 35 which i find really stable while skiing and i do like the side zip to the main pack rather than faffing with the clips. The lid extends so hut trips have been no problem.
I have always used sacks with ski attachments on the side but i notice a lot more these days with the cross the back attachment, what are peoples thoughts on these? I regularly climb(to grade III) with skis on sack and have to walk 30mins up to the snow and have not found side attachments a problem. I can see that the cross method will be quicker but is that the only advantage?
Mrs B has an Osprey, but it's quite heavy and rather fiddly - the zipped openings don't work particularly well, and it's just too full of slightly useless compartments for ease of use. They don't make it any more though so I would hope the newer ones have learnt the lesson.
The Black Diamond ski packs are pretty good and last years models often available at a good discount.
Cheers again folks. Am loving the Cactus patrol pack! I have some of their troos and all their kits seems well thought out.
Does your other half have the Switch? Have seen a few people recommend them on the net and they seem relatively cheap.
I do like BD packs and they come in different lengths so may have a look see.
It was a Switch ?25+5? or similar. Looks great from a distance, bit of a pain in the backside to actually use.
North Face Off Chute is excellent. I have one and it's packed with features without being cluttered. Tough also.
Thanks for that. The Off Chute is on my list of sacks to have a look at. Looks fairly robust and has all the bits and bobs I'm after.
Had a look on youtube and there are a few good vids showing it which is always helpful.
how are you matey? I tried to text you a couple of months back but my beloved daughter has somehow managed to swap contacts and numbers around on the phone so apologies if you didn't get it!
I have a good friend in BATUS at the mo so that looks a possibility and mymate Jules in Canmore is always happy sending me kit so I might just get him to have a look.
Hope life up north is treating you well and the little un isn't keeping you awake!
it's also cheaper than some of the others. I shopped about a lot and then just bought this one. I've used it on the piste and lots of touring. Takes an axe and shovel really well and the attachment for skis is excellent.
Thanks again. I think the imbuggerance may be the back length as it is just the one size which is frustrating. Will try one on loaded up and see.
Osprey Kode 38. A well designed ski touring pack which is worth a look.
If your spare kit is quite compressible and you're not taking crampons you might get away with a smaller bag. This'll be dead useful for piste skiing cos you won't have to take it off every time you load a lift. I've got a Mammut RAS 22l for the coming season; its a squeeze but all the important stuff goes in. Bit of a heavy box, though, and only has diagonal carry.
I've not looked at the Kode, but the Osprey Variant isn't all bad... fair bit lighter, too.
Incidentally, one feature you might want to look out for is 'back panel access' which'll let you rummage around inside even when you're doing an A-frame ski carry and can't get to the normal top opening.
thanks for the post.
Not planning on taking crampons, just looking to skin up fairly decent slopes and have a wee ski down or up, across a few hilltops and then down.
It would need to have a U shaped type opening for the main compartment and prefer an A frame carry.
What I have:
Small Pack (14L) – Osprey Switch 14 circa 2003/4
“Big” Pack (35L) – Black Diamond Revelation circa 2006/7
I use the Switch for lift served off-piste and short hikes/tours that don’t need a rope (i.e. non-glaciated). For everything else, pretty much, I use the Revelation. Splitting my shovel and probe off from the main compartment was a god-send the one time I actually had to use them in anger. Being able to grab shovel and probe quickly without losing the contents of my rucksack made a big difference. The back panel access is great (as a poster said above) when in a-frame carry and it’s been used for day tours, hut-to hutting and 2 weeks ski touring in Greenland. The new version looks a bit jazzier and less robust than the old version though.
Its rather weird that you just posted that link, I have just come back from trying an Arva Rescuer on, excellent rucksack but only the one size which is disappointing.
Also tried on an Osprey Kode, bloody excellent piece of kit that is. They had a demo with full avalanche kit, spare kit and a variety of skis/boards to try it on with. Think I may have become smitten with a rucksack!
Back size I meant.
> Its rather weird that you just posted that link, I have just come back from trying an Arva Rescuer on, excellent rucksack but only the one size which is disappointing.
You refer to size of the shoulder pads etc (ie, S, M, L and the likes) or the backpack capacity?
If the second: Rescuer comes in two sizes: 22 and 27 litres. Difference is that the 22L has the emergency pocket on the 'outside' side, and the 27L has the pocket on the inside (ie touching your back).
I just got 27L one, as on first sight it makes a decent impression (plus I bought the whole set: pack, beacon, shovel and probe). However, I read on the forums that the pack is not too resistant to use and the fabric gets damaged pretty easily. That surprised me as I'd expect good performance from the relatively hefty (circa 1.2kg I think) pack like this - so I'll see how it develops over time.
I meant back size. Maybe I've been misinformed but the one I tried on today was a "one size fits all" and the lady said that was the only size.
Is she wrong then?
She was right, as far as I know, both 22L and 27L come in one size. For me that works, but I am fairly 'typically' built, so never had issues with backpacks, clothing etc...
Shame really as they are good rucksacks.
I'm 6ft 3 and always need a longer back length.
Still the Osprey Kode looks good.
Back Country Access Stash OB 22 for day use and 32 for touring. You wont get better. I confess that I do sell them so I am biased www.crankitupgear.com
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