/ DMM ropes
I'm in the market for a new 60m sport rope. The only real requirements I have is that its >10mm, handles nice and is hard wearing. I've previously been impressed with my edelrid livewire. I've had real problems with a beal edlinger (admittedly this was cheap). And am massively unimpressed with my mammut infinity that needed cutting after 3 weeks use in kalymnos. Had other mammut singles and none have been that good. My mammut halfs are still mint after 4years of use tho.
The dmm concept and the mission seem to suit my needs. Looking for something that will stand up to a thrashing and inspire confidence if I'm shunting on it. Anyone got one of these, or alternatives? Perhaps the beal top gun. Needle sports have all three at decent prices.
Any feedback welcome.
I've not usedthe singles but the halves handle really nicely
Didn't realise that! I'm probably gonna get one then. I've had nothing but good experiences with edelrid ropes, in fact all their gear seems pretty solid.
but i had a beal elinger aswell and that lasted me well but i think its just luck of the draw on how quickly u wreck them sometimes.
Go Outdoors regularly have a deal on the Edelrid "Perfect" around £70-£80 for the 60m. I have that rope and think it is great but I have not put it through anything like the punishment that you have in mind (mine was £50 in a random basket clearout, but then I'd only gone in to buy a £7 bike pump so I'm not sure who's the real winner there :-) )
Handles nice (well, brilliantly really), can't comment on hard wearing.
Hi, For a sub 10mm rope I have been using a Millet tri-axle 9.8mm. It has been a really good workhorse of a rope and is lasting well, it has different built technology to normal ropes. I have also a Mammut 10.2mm super safe and that has been great. I have had Edelweiss in the past and these have really stood up to a lot of use as well.
I was going to look at a sterling rope. I've never climbed with one, but others that do have always had good feedback. They are pricey but don't mind that if it's gonna last.
I've climbed with the perfect and it handles really well, but I think that's as its built with a thinner sheath. I'm not sure it would stand up to the abuse I'll give it (assuming it doesn't piss it down all summer)
I bought a 70m DMM (whatever their expensive one is called?) and a 50m DMM (whatever their cheap one is called, Statement maybe?) they both handle really well but the expensive one wore out in one summer (granted I was climbing most days!) Whereas the cheap one is still going strong, its a monster and I will definitly be getting another one when it does finally die!
Any reason why you want it to be >10mm ?
I wouldn't advise anyone to buy a rope fatter than 10mm these days since 10mm is sufficient diameter for the most hard-wearing ropes. Ropes thinner than that give you better handling and are also pretty hard-wearing these days. Ropes fatter than10mm are usually too fat for the assisted-braking belay devices like the Gri-gri2 and Click-up.
We reviewed a whole selection here - http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=5093
I thought it would be more hardwearing.
DMM, Beal and Mammut all do them fatter than 10mm, DMMs workhorse rope is 10.5, though they do say its for instructors and walls.
My 10.2 Beal works fine with a grigri, though it didn't last very long.
I suppose I am looking for 10mm or above, I basically don't want a thin rope as I already own a 9.2mm that only gets used when needed. Which is lucky given that is worn through on a 3 week trip.
I think that is the point - their handling is really not very good which is why they are used at walls etc. If you are using it to work routes in sustained long sessions, then a workhorse is what you need, but I would still go for a 10mm max.
Gri-gri 1 or 2 - big difference.
Is that a thin 9.2mm single rope of half rope? Again, big difference.
The triple-rated ropes allow you to by one rope to suit all needs but those by necessity need to be quite thin 8.9mm to 9.5mm ish.
I know the length isn't comparable and you intend to use it outdoors, but my experience with my DMM rope was fantastic. It also handled very well and I'd recommend it highly.
> most days!) Whereas the cheap one is still going strong, ...
More expensive ropes are usually thinner and lighter (deliberately so to reduce weight and drag) and thus they might indeed wear out faster than a cheaper (thicker, heavier) rope. Unless you really need the highest performance (on your onsight of a 35-m 9a for example), it's usually sense to buy middle-of-the-range.
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