/ Thats it, France or somewhere else next yr !!
Don't write it off just yet; in a week's time winter may well have returned, and if you're here for 2 weeks you're bound to get some product.
You've probably timed it perfectly. Thank your lucky stars you're not up there just now!
I wouldn't come here, I had to wear shorts yesterday.
Shorts? I had to seek shade today as it was too hot belaying without a shirt on. Still, we did have a fun time snowshoeing and snowball fighting 20 minutes up the hill yesterday.
Only problem is the lack of roadside ice hereabouts: there are venues but since they require Scottish-type walk-ins they never seem to be able to compete with the convenience of all the sun-baked crags or lift-accessible snowboarding.
Maybe I'm getting soft but in that case I reckon soft is the new black.
Please stop saying that.
Stop saying what?
Wouldn't have worked last March!
I think if you are in Somerset the approach needs to be a little different. If I lived that far south I'd probably go for the 2-week approach or not at all.
Yep Alps definitely more reliable and more to do. You live southwest but for those in the South East the Alps are a similar drive time to Fort William.
> Stop saying what?
"...get some product."
It does sound like you're a contestent in The Apprentice, or something, most disconcerting when preceeded by some otherwise sensible advice ;)
Somerset? Wish I was as local as that! Hold your ground man, you'll find something.
The product thing. *boak* *shudder*
> The product thing. *boak* *shudder*
> Shorts? I had to seek shade today as it was too hot belaying without a shirt on. Still, we did have a fun time snowshoeing and snowball fighting 20 minutes up the hill yesterday.
> Only problem is the lack of roadside ice hereabouts: there are venues but since they require Scottish-type walk-ins they never seem to be able to compete with the convenience of all the sun-baked crags or lift-accessible snowboarding.
> Maybe I'm getting soft but in that case I reckon soft is the new black.
Sun? On our side of the Alps itīs raining! Freezing point around 3,000m.
I had no idea it was so repulsive, a number of folk I know use it and I honestly wouldn't describe any of them as young Thatcherites. But if it makes you happy I'll try to refrain...
Some years it doesn't work...or has thawed by the time we get up there. A few years ago we were blanketed by 30cm overnight bivvying near Pen y Pass.
Snow holing...difficult to find anywhere to do this.
A few years ago someone dug a snow hole 'mansion' at the top of Snowdon where the snow had collected in the lee of the cafe.
Feb 2010 near Pen y Pass
ABANDON SHIP! To The ALPS PEOPLE!, SAVE YOURSELVES! WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST!
So, 1000 miles round trip plus cottage. What's all that cost then?
The "Death of Scottish Winter" has been greatly over-hyped. We've had one bad week, climbs have been getting done since October and we're barely into the new year. Let's see what happens and judge it retrospectively.
Are you menstruating, Jamie?? I can count several more weeks than that.
> ABANDON SHIP! To The ALPS PEOPLE!
But not till next week - it is sunny and spring-like right now in the Dolomites. Perfect cragging in the sun down in Arco.
OK, it's been off-and-on, and conditions haven't always favoured the weekends. But there's been plenty got done, and the spell that people have really been whinging about has only been one week long... so far..
> I had no idea it was so repulsive, a number of folk I know use it and I honestly wouldn't describe any of them as young Thatcherites. But if it makes you happy I'll try to refrain...
I'd appreciate it too, and i've only read it once on this thread.
Note the velocity of my shudder. (:-))
Thats a pretty violent shudder!!!!
For me Scotland is what it is, good or bad, accept it for what it is. You cannot compare Scttish Winter with Alpine Winter, different level of risks and you could equally be grounded by crap weather although for different reasons. My 2 bobs worth having had many a sh/te winter season in the glorious North!
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