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mypyrex - on 11 Jan 2013
I'm thinking of buying a Canon 1100D with an IS lens for general photography, occasional close ups as well as the occasional zoom. Just wondering what lens(focal length) to go for initially.

Any advice appreciated.
Blue Straggler - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex:

If I were you for now I'd just go with the kit lens. There is a very good reason that they make them with an 18-55mm focal length range. Play with it for a few months and if you decide you need a longer reach or a wider angle, then start researching.
mypyrex - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler: Thanks. Pixmania have one with the 18-55mm IS lens. Might go for it.
Blue Straggler - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex:

Watch out for Pixmania, there's been a few horror stories reported on here (and also happy stories, though!)
Blue Straggler - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Many of these threads are old and Pixmania are still running but I don't know if they have improved their service

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=512010
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=199751
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=388161
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=146409
mypyrex - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:
> (In reply to mypyrex)
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> Watch out for Pixmania,

Hmmmm, Amazon selling this one:

Canon EOS 1100D EF-S IS II Lens 12MP SLR Camera 2.7 inch LCD - Black

for another 20
jamesc88 on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex: Pixmania are okay but all their products are so called 'grey' imports. It means the cameras have no UK warranty, so if anything breaks you have to send it back to Pixmania and it can take up to 2 months for them to get something sorted.

As for the camera the EOS 1100D is actually really quite good. If you are planning on shooting video with it though I'd suggest you opt for the 18-135mm IS lens (there's 2 versions, you can get away with the cheaper non-STM version) Don't forget - lenses last, cameras get replaced.

Check out www.camerapricebuster.co.uk for the lowest price on camera gear, that site tries to only list reputable UK stockists, so you can buy without fear. (I work for one of the shops on there, won't tell you which one though)
mypyrex - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler: (Not used Pixmania before - maybe the devil you know rather than the one you don't)
Blue Straggler - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to jamesc88:

Good call, I imagine an 18-135 will cover all mypyrex's needs for a while.
mypyrex - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler: Thanks for the info. Do you know anything about the EF-S lens mentioned above?
jamesc88 on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex: the 18-55? It's okay, plastic construction and plastic bayonet means it's slightly easier to break. The range is more limiting than anything else. You'll find that 18mm is wide enough for indoor stuff but nothing like some of the wide shots you'll have seen and 55mm isn't going to zoom in hugely, think about a 3x zoom camera. It's that equivalent.

Out of the two options you have;

18-55mm: Good cheap price, okay quality, poor zoom range.
18-135mm: Good zoom range, better quality, more expensive.
Blue Straggler - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex:

I know nothing of these cameras and lenses, I leave you in James' capable hands! :-)
Blue Straggler - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to jamesc88:
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> Out of the two options you have;
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> 18-55mm: Good cheap price, okay quality, poor zoom range.
> 18-135mm: Good zoom range, better quality, more expensive.

How about bulk and weight? Might be an issue for mypyrex? Though I doubt there's much in it really. Is the 18-135 any slower (f-stops) than the 18-55?

jamesc88 on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex: 18-135mm weighs 455grams and is f/3.5-5.6 and the 18-55mm is 200grams with the same aperture range.

The 18-135mm was Canon's first foray into a video lens and was incredibly successful with the EOS 600D (flip out screen made video even easier). The 18-135mm is 3x the price of the 18-55mm though.

Don't worry too much about aperture values, the joys of climbing include a well lit environment. Outdoors you will be fine with either lens.
Blue Straggler - on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to jamesc88:

Sorry to keep butting in, but what is a "video lens"?
jamesc88 on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler: It's just a lens that gives a bigger range without swapping. Something more of an all-in-one. 18-55mm's get paired with 55-200mm lenses to keep size and weight down but cover a reasonable range. If you're zooming and hit the long end at 55m then your stuck. 18-135mm gives you something reasonably wide to medium range telephoto. Not a problem if you only want to take stills as you'd just swap lenses for something with more reach.
tk421 on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex:
I have a Sony and use an 18-250 F3.5-6.3 as my general lens, its pricey but really useful for travel as it spans such a huge range and the quality is still good enough.

Take a look at
http://www.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-superzoom-for-canon-dslrs-8-tes...
Philip on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:
> (In reply to jamesc88)
>
> Sorry to keep butting in, but what is a "video lens"?

It features STM for the focussing - which the newest cameras (like 650D) support when in video mode. It reduced the overshoot when maintaining focus.
jamesc88 on 11 Jan 2013
In reply to Philip: There's still 2 versions knocking about, the older model doesn't feature STM, still classed as a video lens. STM gives that really attractive Movie style 'pull focus' where things drift into focus as opposed to snap.
TryfAndy on 14 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex:

The 18-135 is my standard 'knock about' lens for the light camera set-up (550D) I take when out with the dog etc. It's nice & versatile, and surprisingly good image quality for the price.

Here's a few of recent shots with it

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8080/8380498536_229b291a0a_k.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8507/8362920804_485733d366_k.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8195/8135245320_8e53c7f005_k.jpg

TryfAndy on 14 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex:

Oh, and don't disregard Sigma lenses. They are grand for the money, and you can pick up a bargain if you look around. I've used this model and couldn't fault it http://bit.ly/W3Aoye (unfortunately I had to give it back to my mate!)
Max Harms on 14 Jan 2013
In reply to mypyrex:

its just means its designed for cameras with cropped sensors like the 1100d,and other xxxd and xxd as well as the 7d

a cropped sensor is smaller than propfesional full frame such as the 1D series or 5D series and hails back to the days of using film

theres nothing wrong with them except that due to them being slightly smaller you have to times the focal length by 1.6 (usefull to know when buying fixed focal length lenses)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF-S_lens_mount

hope this helps

max

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