/ Is Coel happy?

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MG - on 16 Jan 2013
Does this mean the law has changed, or is just in process of changing. Or, more simply, is Coel happy?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/14/insulting-section-5-public-order-act
BigBrother - on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to MG: What is the difference between insulting and abusive?
ring ouzel on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to MG: I thought he was a merry old soul?
dissonance - on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to MG:

not online since that has different laws.
SCC - on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to ring ouzel:
> (In reply to MG) I thought he was a merry old soul?

Wrong bloke - you're thinking of Old King Cole I reckon.

See: http://www.teachersandfamilies.com/nursery/kingcole.html

Coel doens't have fiddler, nor does he (in my admittedly limited experience) smoke a pipe.

Si.
Coel Hellier - on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to MG:

> Or, more simply, is Coel happy?

Yep, fairly happy. Although I for one am puzzled about the distinction between "abusive" (which will remain) and "insulting" (which will be removed). People tell me that this is a significant change, but IMO leaving in "abusive" still gives far too much scope for the police, CPS and magistrates to prosecute speech that they find mildly upsetting.
Coel Hellier - on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to SCC:

> Wrong bloke - you're thinking of Old King Cole I reckon.

I'm told that the Old King Cole legend ultimately derives from this chap: http://www.geni.com/people/Coel-Hen-The-Old-King-of-Northern-Britain-Dux-Britanniorum/60000000062329...

One of the very few people who I've heard of with the same forename as me.

About the only other one I can think of is this boy: http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/9892124.Coel__4__is_youngest_to_climb_all_the_Wainwright...
MG - on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to Coel Hellier: "You, sir, are a dishonourable cad" =insulting
"You are f*cking liar" abusive and insulting??
ring ouzel on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to SCC: Ha! See, I was right. And its not very often I get to say that! :-)
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Bimble on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to MG:
"The use of insulting language will no longer be illegal in cases in which a specific victim cannot be identified, the home secretary, Theresa May, has said."

So if I was to stand in front of a group of people and yell "you're a c*nt", I couldn't be nicked as it wasn't aimed at anyone in particular. If I was to walk up to one member of that group and tell them they were a c*nt, then I could be nicked. If they were a whinging tw*t with no backbone or sense of proportion and complained to a rozzer about me anyway.

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