/ Power drills
feel free too make suggestions if there are any particularly good models.
thanks in advance.
Few things to consider , Voltage ? 110v for site use or 240v for domestic & diy use ?
Or will A battery drill be more useful ? Also will you need a chisel (stop) function plus a good hammer action & reverse ?
I binned off my corded drills a while ago and bought a 24v Drill with stop ,hammer etc as I'm doing a fair bit of site work nowadays & it can be used for bolting routes as well .
If you can afford it have a look at Makita , Bosch if you are going to be using everyday .
What will you be using it for primarily ?
I wouldn't feel like you need to spend a huge amount unless you actually want to (assuming that this is for DIY?). I bought a £15 (corded) drill from Argos about 15 years ago and it's been used heavily for standard DIY type stuff without any problems. My cordless drill is a £20 ALDI one which I have only had 3 or 4 years, but again no problems. They are are not complicated tools.
Neither are the the highest quality drills in the world, but perfectly reliable. I have a pillar drill for anything requiring a bit more precision.
For big jobs (e.g. drilling large holes in masonry walls) it is normally more cost effective just to hire the right tool for a day.
If it's for domestic use unless you are a DIY enthusiast it may not need to be all that reliable and you might even be better off cadging one from a neighbour/friend. I heard a programme on the radio about waste a few months ago which reckoned the average domestic power drill is used for less than ten minutes during its entire life time and represents a huge waste of resources and money. I've no idea how they arrived at the stat and no way of verifying it but as the owner of no few than four drills (upgrades from corded to corded hammer, to cordless to more sophisticated cordless) I think in my case ten minutes is longer than the last three have been used between them. The first did get a bit more usage but only because it had hedge trimmer and sander attachments.
If it's for general putting up shelves and screwdrivering then you can't go far wrong with some of the cordless Li Ion drills. if you are doing anything for extended periods like multiple concrete holes, then get a corded one, just make sure it's got a good hammer function.
What do you want to do with it?
I recently bought a makita cordless and its been worth the extra money.
Mark, (site joiner).
I've been perfectly happy with my Black & Decker cordless for enthusiastic DIY use - had it a few years now, after ditching a cheapy cordless drill set that didn't have a proportional trigger.
Got it in a sale in Focus for about 1/2 price with a free set of drill bits - worth checking Homebase/B&Q for similar deals.
They'll all last if you don't use them.
Unless you opt for battery.
In which case none of them will last no matter how much you spend.
I have an 18v bosch Li ion cordless at work I think it was about 180 quid with an extra battery. It gets used for all sorts here and would be an excellent drill for a bloke to have at home to hang pictures put gates on concrete fence posts etc.
one thing it is regularly used for is drilling out old melted bolt heads from my arc melter so it obviously has some grunt.
at home I have an 18 V AEG which was about £120 is just as handy but quite heavy being NiCd
Check the maximum bit size most 18V cordless stop at 10 mm which can be a bit annoying
Recently got myself a 30 quid Draper hammer drill, seems fine so far. Was fine putting 16mm holes into concrete for a ground anchor. Can't see the point in spending much more if it's going to last me 10 years plus.
Also got a crappy Tesco cordless for when I'm too lazy to use a screwdriver.
I am not a pro, but I have done a lot of work on several houses that I have owned. Buy an SDS corded drill and an extension lead, even a cheap one will be more reliable than rechargeable, regardless of the cost.
I'd agree with above and shy away from anything battery unless you use it regular.
If it´s general round the house stuff then SDS is useful but not essential (I´ve got 5 various ones), Makita or Bosch are good, the Metabo battery one I have is worthless. If it´s metal and wood then either Fein if you´ve the money (and if they even sell them in the UK) or Metabo, whichever a mechanical gearbox is the only way to go for drilling big holes especially in metal, electronic speed control is crap. The Metabo SBE 1100 plus is good, the Impulse models are not my thing!
I would have to agree re Makita, my Bosch is 24v so can't comment on their corded drills. SDS is definitely the way to go and has be for years now.As for Fein, I can't find a SDS or percussion drill in their range, you didn't mean Festool? (which incidentally are for trades who don't like to get their tools dirty, ie shopfitters(they also have more sense than money)).
That's all very well but the same position gets boring(!) after a while...
Nah, I prefer the original. Nice bit of drilling followed by some screwing fnarr fnarr...
you can get bigger twist-bits..but they might need a 13mm chuck (and drilling that big a hole might well need a fair bit of power anyway)
Trusty recon black & decker corded from the 80's has done me well for DIY, including masonery & concrete to fit a ground anchor.
Ryobi 14v nicad CHI-1442P has been fine for wood & thin metal, though not great for very small bits (2mm). Struggled to get through 20 bricks, even on hammer. Nice progressive trigger action & low speed for driving. (£49 for drill & driver).
used a makita 18v over the summer & it was about twice as good. Some offers on makita at the moment at e.g. screwfix. if i was buying new, i'd probably go for an 18v, as I might be using it away from power source.
It really depends on what you're doing. If you have a normal fairly modern house which is all brick, and you're just planning on drilling holes and the like, then a 14 or 18v cordless combi will do fine. Pick a li-ion drill which is on offer at Screwfix by someone like Bosch, Makita or DeWalt. I have a 10.8v Makita drill driver, which is pretty good for most things.
If you have a house with particulary tough walls (i.e. stone) or need to do some light demolition work then a corded SDS is the way to go. Look for something around £100-150 in the above brands in the 2kg category. The power is measured in J(oules) and you're wanting 2 or above for a 2kg drill.
If you want to splash the cash then go all out for a Hilti Cordless SDS. Bonus point with one of them, is that you can use them to bolt if that's your thing.
> I would have to agree re Makita, my Bosch is 24v so can't comment on their corded drills. SDS is definitely the way to go and has be for years now.As for Fein, I can't find a SDS or percussion drill in their range, you didn't mean Festool? (which incidentally are for trades who don't like to get their tools dirty, ie shopfitters(they also have more sense than money)).
As I wrote, for wood or metal Fein or Metabo are the way to go. I didn´t assume the OP lived in some reinforced concrete bunker and wanted to drill holes in it all day, he wanted the opinion of "skilled individuals who make things for a living" and if metalwork od woodwork is his interest then he got my opinion for the best tool for the job. If it is for general work around the house with the occasional wall plug then the Metabo will serve him much better than a specialised SDS drill since the adaptor chuck to take a normal drill makes them excessively long, unhandy and innacurate.
Don't bother with a non-SDS drill. We could never get curtain poles in properly because our windows have some kind of reinforced concrete lintel above them. Our corded power drill wouldn't scratch them. We bought an SDS drill and it goes straight through.
There is no point at all buying a non-SDS drill if you might need it for masonry. We got a DeWalt but I think all the major brands (Makita, Bosch etc) will probably be fine.
> Nah, I prefer the original. Nice bit of drilling followed by some screwing fnarr fnarr...
ahh you're the 'get a good bit of wood in your hand give it a good rub down and then maybe do some Damn good drilling, screwing and hammering' kind of guy
> As I wrote, for wood or metal Fein or Metabo are the way to go.
I didn´t assume the OP lived in some reinforced concrete bunker and wanted to drill holes in it all day,
he wanted the opinion of "skilled individuals who make things for a living" and if metalwork od woodwork is his interest then he got my opinion for the best tool for the job.
I think I would class myself in the above statement given that I've been a joiner for 22 years and have drilled just about every material there is to drill.
It's well documented on the forums what you do for a living, but to assume that because I didn't say what I did for a living therefor I don't really know what I'm talking about does come across as somewhat arrogant.
All the best.
Poor old Chuck.
Well, for goodness sake give Chuck a break from the missionary! That could help compensate for the size limitations.
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