In reply to jon: I wonder regarding the two Johnny's, how much of their persona is genuine, and how much is a PR exercise to create and maintain an enigmatic, controversial (certainly in Redheads case) and mystical aura.
I think they are both in fact playing to the gallery, and they are possibly completely different in private?
It's amazing sometimes the difference between public, and private persona's.
I remember playing doubles at darts in the Padarn, against Brown and one of his mates (hangers on??), and getting more than a grunt from him was nigh on impossible.
On the other hand, I spent 2 hours in the Pineapple on Water Street in Manchester with Whillans - just him and me, and I'd never met him before - and he was warm, open, generous - in both buying the beer and conversation, and an absolute delight.