/ MSR Tents?
only seen the mutha hubba (but several others not on your list).
all good tents, some exceptional - except the pegs. utter crap. ive snapped at least 10 (the red ones, others may be better).
I've got the Hubba Hubba HP which is the 2 man version....quality tent, very light and roomy for the weight, having 2 entrances is great. I've used in in fairly high winds and it stands up well if pitched properly.
Some people complain that the groundsheet is too high and will let water in but I've not had a problem with this.
Ive had the MSR Fusion2 which was good but heavy. I have now got the original MSR Dragonstail which is good except it lets the water in through the vent flaps which annoys me more than i can express.
Most of the tents are good but defo worth inspecting the tent in a show room first before buying. MSR is an american brand and like most brands made outside the UK, UK conditions are not on the top of the priority list when designing equipment. I would prob advise towards terra nova.
Limelight4P: not the lightest (because of the good height, windows and solid inner), but roomy, weatherproof & stood up to a couple of storms well. Inner pitch first, goes up quick, so not too much of a disadvantage (though getting the fly over by yourself in high winds can be a bit tricky). 2 doors.
Also tried a Grid, nicely built. If I was out walking, I'd take it. Outer pitch first.
I really liked the Widi; not as tall as the limelight and only 1 door, but fantastic porch area!
Limelight4p has vents on the doors, nice touch. You can sleep along or across in it as well. Don't know if the 3P has vents.
Only thing I'd change would be a cover for the windows and inclusion of storm guys (the attachment points are there, just not the guylines). It stands fine without the storm guys, freestanding or with the existing lines. I think most manufacturers leave out storm guys now?
Between two, it'd be quick * light enough to erect for day camping; I stayed in it when static for a week & it was great. the gear loft is a really nice touch for a (relatively) cheap tent.
Dude, you just totally jinxed me! I read your post whilst in the car yesterday after climbing, and we went on to another area in the evening and camped in the carpark. http://instagram.com/p/U_M8OQrvL3/ I've always thought those MSR pegs have been excellent, but last night one hit of the first one with my Viper to try and get it into the frozen ground and the head snapped clean off!
Check out the hydrostatic head on American tents. Often they are designed to combat snow and showers, not three days of torrential rain. Choose hastily, repent at leisure...
Ha! Jinxed myself too. Just been out 2 nights in a Twin Bros, only needs 4 pegs, snapped one.
3 left now of a pack of 13. Garbage.
Ti is maybe overkill, but the alpkit ones may work.
The other pegs i use from north face and BD are fine.
Hi, Have you received the tent yet at what are your first impressions?
My pegs-for-hard-ground are half a dozen Alpkit Spikes.
I have had them for a few years now, and have hammered them into all sorts of nasty stuff, and only now is one of them showing signs of starting to bend.
And, yes, one way that some manufacturers keep their official weights down is not to fit guys. I ended up fitting a couple of guy ropes to my MSR Hubba HP.
Thanks for your reply. I was also looking at the holler tent. There is a good deal on them in the states. How many guide ropes can you fit. A older review I read about Msr tents was that been a more upright tent that they collected the wind quite harshly . I think they were lacking guide ropes probably in the centre. Do they have guide points there now? Thanks Sean
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