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very briefly. i work in a very good hotel and one of my colleagues is a polish guy. we have been there 5 monts or so, both work very hard, never off work and will go in on our days off if asked. today we asked our manager for a pay rise and he said a definate no. the hotel cant afford it.i could tell you why this is rubbish but thats for another time! however, we have a girl there who has been there 2 months and doesnt work well at all. she is always late and always moans about having to work. yesterday he promoted her which automatically comes with a pay rise. we feel well naffed off about this and are both thinking we will look for other jobs. what do you think? are we over reacting? has anyone any suggestions about what we could say if we approach our manager again about a pay rise. or do you think he is totally unappreciative of us and we should leave?

In reply to heidi123:
Only having your version to go on two possibilities occur
1 He fancies her
2 You're not as good as you think you are
Could be either or neither

In reply to heidi123: we think she fancies him as she is always talking to him rather than working! we get annoyed as she always has her knickers showing and red knickers are not part of our uniform!!

In reply to heidi123:
Flattery and lingerie - a killer combination!

In reply to Wiley Coyote: Ha! so he's an idiot! i knew it!

In reply to Wiley Coyote:

this ^^^ and also Wiley forgot No.3

3. C'est la vie.

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In reply to heidi123: So what knickers are part of the uniform? I suggest fighting fire with fire and getting tarted up and batting your eyelids at the gaffer....

In reply to heidi123:

They're not part of mine either (at least not specifically mentioned) but it doesn't stop me wearing them.

In reply to Kipper: well i wear them too, but hers come 2 inches out of her trousers. i keep telling my polish collegue he should start wearing them and show them to the boss!

In reply to heidi123: maybe put your sexy helly hanson stuff on.......

In reply to Wiley Coyote:

or 4) she's better than you think she is?

Anyway, does she flash the upper or lower part of her red knickers? There is a significant difference in the "appeal factor"!

Just saying.....

In reply to heidi123:

Workplaces are not meritocracies. Getting promoted is 10% to do with performance, 40% experience/qualifications and 50% profile (like red knickers). This a self-perpetuating spiral, self-serving gobshite managers falling for their kindred's gobshite. Sometimes managers justify it to themselves by pretending they have magical management-skills, which are more important than actually producing anything.

With the possible exception of specialist roles, you need to lower your hard-work principles and start selling yourself. This does not necessarily mean showing your knickers but, e.g. don't let anyone take credit for your work or force you to do the same mundane task all day long whilst they run fun little projects. It is one of those things in life that everyone with a shred of integrity loathes but most give in to and is called 'playing the game'. It is possible to do it 50%.

I'd say looking for another job is ok after 6 months but 1 year is more respectable. Do it for your own career progress not spite, your old boss is not going to be overwhelmed with remorse as he doesn't value you in the first place.

If it's any consolation, almost everyone suffers someone less deserving being promoted above them. Rise above it, life isn't fair and promotion does not equal happiness. Go for a climb and none of this will matter

In reply to John Ww: she is a really crap housekeeper actually and very lazy. and its the top part of her knickers. the polish guy actually said to her "if i wanted to see your knickers i would ask you to show them to me"!! she still wears them like that though

In reply to heidi123:


I've had a few jobs in the last 25 years of my working life and I can't ever remember a time where I thought it appropriate to tell a girl to stop showing off her knickers.


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In reply to heidi123:

In that case, definitely a slapper.

Don't get mad - get even!

In reply to trouserburp: thanks for this. what you say really makes sense and does help. after my days off i go back to work happy and talking about the mountains and she comes and tells me someting the boss has said and puts me straight in a bad mood. i find her really irritating. i would rather not speak to her at all but obviously thats not possible. its only a small hotel!