In reply to r fizzle:
I've done physically easier E1's at Shepherds and other places. Finale is very safe really, hence why it's HVS.
I'm not sure why I'm getting drawn into this. I just put it foward as one that is very fall off'able and one that is (relatively safely) fallen off a lot. As I said, the logbook does actually support this with more "climbed" than "clean onsight". And read the comments.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. And I'm 100% sure there are other routes see more failures.