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I'd usually chomp on a mixed bag of cheese and chorizo bits but I'm old and podgy with high cholesterol.
Any pratical and apetising suggestions on top of nuts and seeds?
Any pratical and apetising suggestions on top of nuts and seeds?
In reply to iksander:
flap jack and malt loaf are my choices but not sure on cholesterol content but got to be better than cheese!
flap jack and malt loaf are my choices but not sure on cholesterol content but got to be better than cheese!
In reply to iksander:
Cheese and chorizo are certainly energy dense foods - mainly fats and protein though. In addition to them being cholesterol rich, fats and proteins take the longest for your body to metabolise into useful energy, roughly between 3-12 hours. If you're talking long spells on the hill, this is fine, but to keep your energy up as you're walking along you need to think carbs. Not as densely packed but much more available for your body - so just eat more=high energy.
The guy who wrote 'The book of the bivvy' swore blind that custard creams are as energy packed as specialist energy bars at 10x the price.
I'm a fig roll fan myself, and the dense crisps (nik-naks, wheat crunchies etc) really his the spot for me, and they're usually made with non-hydrogenated fat these days.
Cheese and chorizo are certainly energy dense foods - mainly fats and protein though. In addition to them being cholesterol rich, fats and proteins take the longest for your body to metabolise into useful energy, roughly between 3-12 hours. If you're talking long spells on the hill, this is fine, but to keep your energy up as you're walking along you need to think carbs. Not as densely packed but much more available for your body - so just eat more=high energy.
The guy who wrote 'The book of the bivvy' swore blind that custard creams are as energy packed as specialist energy bars at 10x the price.
I'm a fig roll fan myself, and the dense crisps (nik-naks, wheat crunchies etc) really his the spot for me, and they're usually made with non-hydrogenated fat these days.
In reply to iksander: soreen, jelly babies and chocolate covers it all!
I always go for a bag of mixed nuts in my pocket to chomp on throughout the day high energy and not to bad for you either. Unless on the rare occasion I go for the salted kind.
In reply to iksander:
I like shortbread. The brand i use boasts '31%' butter on the packet.
Probably not what your after.
Slightly better than the slices of pizza glued together with peanut butter and pesto i was into for a while.
I climb with lots of americans.
I like shortbread. The brand i use boasts '31%' butter on the packet.
Probably not what your after.
Slightly better than the slices of pizza glued together with peanut butter and pesto i was into for a while.
I climb with lots of americans.
In reply to iksander: Malt loaf is the best hill food known to mankind!!!!
Mule Bars are pretty good too, and fit your spec.
Mule Bars are pretty good too, and fit your spec.
In reply to iksander:
Almond butter or marzipan would be my suggestions. Obviously not going to work if you can't stand either!
Almond butter or marzipan would be my suggestions. Obviously not going to work if you can't stand either!
In reply to danrock101:
Ding ding we have a winner.
Also dried figs, jelly babies, cereal bars...
Plus the occasional sarnie - ham or jam work.
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> flap jack and malt loaf
> flap jack and malt loaf
Ding ding we have a winner.
Also dried figs, jelly babies, cereal bars...
Plus the occasional sarnie - ham or jam work.
In reply to iksander:
Most suggestions are sweet, anything savoury (I'm not sure of the practicalities of eating crisps when on the move and thirsty!)?
Most suggestions are sweet, anything savoury (I'm not sure of the practicalities of eating crisps when on the move and thirsty!)?
In reply to ice.solo:
Half a cold pizza, folded to avoid mess, was my surprise hill food discovery of 2012. Dense, tasty, easy to eat and strangely comforting. Don't know why I didn't try it years ago.
Half a cold pizza, folded to avoid mess, was my surprise hill food discovery of 2012. Dense, tasty, easy to eat and strangely comforting. Don't know why I didn't try it years ago.
In reply to SFM:
Along a similar vein Halva has a good energy value to weight/size ratio
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> Almond butter or marzipan would be my suggestions. Obviously not going to work if you can't stand either!
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> Almond butter or marzipan would be my suggestions. Obviously not going to work if you can't stand either!
Along a similar vein Halva has a good energy value to weight/size ratio
In reply to Tyler:
savory oat cakes - never without an emergency pack - they never have to wait for an emergency. not low in fat though...
savory oat cakes - never without an emergency pack - they never have to wait for an emergency. not low in fat though...
In reply to iksander: Thinking I might make myself a couple of tray bakes: flapjacks (with sunflower spread rather than butter), demerara sugar and seeds and maybe a sort of polenta and (low fat) pesto thing with pine nuts for a savoury.
Gonna miss my fat hit though...
Gonna miss my fat hit though...
In reply to iksander:
Eat anything you like in winter!
Home made savoury quiche, a mates wife supplied was superb!
A Sat night Donner Kebab, scoffed between 3 at Hells Lum, was very tasy, I think the chilli sauce helped!
Malt loaf? That's like chewing on a stale brown cushion!
Best to force down a good breakfast I find, Good shout above re shorty and nuts,makes you thirsty though.
Eat anything you like in winter!
Home made savoury quiche, a mates wife supplied was superb!
A Sat night Donner Kebab, scoffed between 3 at Hells Lum, was very tasy, I think the chilli sauce helped!
Malt loaf? That's like chewing on a stale brown cushion!
Best to force down a good breakfast I find, Good shout above re shorty and nuts,makes you thirsty though.
In reply to iksander:
I've a fan of bagels - they don't disintegrate like a sarnie or roll. Also, eccles cakes when you need a sweet hit.
I've a fan of bagels - they don't disintegrate like a sarnie or roll. Also, eccles cakes when you need a sweet hit.
In reply to Boogie:
Nuts are a very poor hill food due to the slow energy release, you will be back a the car before you have had half the benefit (but are good recovery food, so keep them at the car.) You need instant carbs, backed up by slow carbs, biscuits are perfect!
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> The guy who wrote 'The book of the bivvy' swore blind that custard creams are as energy packed as specialist energy bars at 10x the price.
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+ 1 with chocolate digestives, chip cookies and ginger nuts when they get boring.>
> The guy who wrote 'The book of the bivvy' swore blind that custard creams are as energy packed as specialist energy bars at 10x the price.
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Nuts are a very poor hill food due to the slow energy release, you will be back a the car before you have had half the benefit (but are good recovery food, so keep them at the car.) You need instant carbs, backed up by slow carbs, biscuits are perfect!
In reply to iksander:
I've been looking in to this area recently. I'm now reading this book http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/1400033462
Taubes shows there's very little evidence that lowering your cholesterol has any significant beneficial effect with regards to lowering chance of heart attacks and no evidence that it increases life expectancy overall.
I've been looking in to this area recently. I'm now reading this book http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/1400033462
Taubes shows there's very little evidence that lowering your cholesterol has any significant beneficial effect with regards to lowering chance of heart attacks and no evidence that it increases life expectancy overall.
In reply to CurlyStevo: Usually up for the contrarian view (especially when tasty) however my Dad had high cholesterol too and had a heart attack before he was 60 so I'll play it safe
In reply to ice.solo: "pizza glued together with peanut butter and pesto." Well sir I think I have found the most epic travel food ever. Many thanks, I'm sold.
In reply to iksander:
EVERY cell in your body requires cholesterol; it is a fundamental building block of the cell.
> (In reply to CurlyStevo) Usually up for the contrarian view (especially when tasty) however my Dad had high cholesterol too and had a heart attack before he was 60 so I'll play it safe
EVERY cell in your body requires cholesterol; it is a fundamental building block of the cell.
In reply to Lamb:
The only problem with Soreen is that you need it with a wdedge of cheese and butter on it - drool.
And, news just in, you can get banana Soreen now too, which is lish.
> (In reply to iksander) soreen, jelly babies and chocolate covers it all!
The only problem with Soreen is that you need it with a wdedge of cheese and butter on it - drool.
And, news just in, you can get banana Soreen now too, which is lish.
In reply to FrankBooth:
Hot cross buns are equally indestructible and my food of choice. Particularly now you can buy them all year round.
> (In reply to iksander)
> I've a fan of bagels - they don't disintegrate like a sarnie or roll. Also, eccles cakes when you need a sweet hit.
> I've a fan of bagels - they don't disintegrate like a sarnie or roll. Also, eccles cakes when you need a sweet hit.
Hot cross buns are equally indestructible and my food of choice. Particularly now you can buy them all year round.
In reply to Shani: I think I've got enough spare cholesterol for quite a few extra cells
Do I get a free box of <product x> if I big it up on forums?
Do I get a free box of <product x> if I big it up on forums?
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
It is indeed the bomb. Occasionally hard to find though.
> And, news just in, you can get banana Soreen now too, which is lish.
It is indeed the bomb. Occasionally hard to find though.
In reply to iksander: Home made Christmas cake hit the spot but is sadly all gobbled up now.
I second the oatcakes and also The Fabulous Bakin Boys make a flapjack finger that's perfectly calorie dense and individually wrapped by the luscious mouthful sized portion.
I tried peanut butter and jam wraps, big mushy, sticky mistake. Dont recommend that one!
I second the oatcakes and also The Fabulous Bakin Boys make a flapjack finger that's perfectly calorie dense and individually wrapped by the luscious mouthful sized portion.
I tried peanut butter and jam wraps, big mushy, sticky mistake. Dont recommend that one!
In reply to iksander: This fruit cake is pretty good on the hills, nice and moist.
Fruit cake recipe:
1 cup kellogs allbran (or similar)
1 cup mixed fruit
1 cup sugar
1 cup milk
1 cup self raising flour.
Mix ingredients except flour in bowl
leave to soak
add flour
cook in a greased loaf tin 180degrees 1 hour.
Fruit cake recipe:
1 cup kellogs allbran (or similar)
1 cup mixed fruit
1 cup sugar
1 cup milk
1 cup self raising flour.
Mix ingredients except flour in bowl
leave to soak
add flour
cook in a greased loaf tin 180degrees 1 hour.
In reply to iksander:Brown bread and honey, brown bread and jam?
In reply to iksander: A big bag of sultanas.
In reply to iksander: it does depend on what you're looking for but I have just found Peronin, do a search and see what you think.
Pie
Any flavour you like. Warm it up on the dashboard heater whilst driving. Wrap in spare hat etc. Enjoy after topping out, still warm.
I know it's too much fat but it tastes good and is comforting.
Flapjack for pudding.
Any flavour you like. Warm it up on the dashboard heater whilst driving. Wrap in spare hat etc. Enjoy after topping out, still warm.
I know it's too much fat but it tastes good and is comforting.
Flapjack for pudding.
In reply to Pete Potter: That stuff looks a bit scary,I thought it was going to be an updated sort of pemmican.
In reply to iksander:
Cold roast potatoes. And nobody should ever pass up the opportunity to take crystallised dry ginger.
Cold roast potatoes. And nobody should ever pass up the opportunity to take crystallised dry ginger.
In reply to I like climbing:
thats the secret of my power. goes good in coffee
> (In reply to iksander)
crystallised dry ginger.thats the secret of my power. goes good in coffee
In reply to iksander: Jelly babies for sugar, honey roasted peanuts and cashews for everything else.
A dash of cheap lime concentrate in my water to stop it freezing and get some sugar from that.
A dash of cheap lime concentrate in my water to stop it freezing and get some sugar from that.
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
Pish. An mere upstart. The original remains superior.
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> And, news just in, you can get banana Soreen now too, which is lish.
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> And, news just in, you can get banana Soreen now too, which is lish.
Pish. An mere upstart. The original remains superior.
In reply to iksander:
Dead on your feet? A big lump of Xmas cake and you feel like Popeye after his spinach!!
You can eat anything on the hill as all the sat fats and other crap wil be burnt off by hard exercise and doesn't hang about in the bloodstream to cause any harm.
Great explanation by Dr Mike Stroud in Ranulph Fiennes book. Mad bad & Dangerous.
Dead on your feet? A big lump of Xmas cake and you feel like Popeye after his spinach!!
You can eat anything on the hill as all the sat fats and other crap wil be burnt off by hard exercise and doesn't hang about in the bloodstream to cause any harm.
Great explanation by Dr Mike Stroud in Ranulph Fiennes book. Mad bad & Dangerous.
In reply to nufkin: Clearly apple and cinnamon is better.
In reply to Root1:
That kind of generalisation is spread by people with fast metabolisms. Please understand we are not all built the same. I managed to get to border-line obese while mountaineering very regularly! I am now back down to a good size, but I can't eat any more on the hill than I do in normal life. I genuinely put on weight if I up my food intake on the hill. I eat sensibly, but still have to watch it. Everyone needs to work out how their own body works!!
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> You can eat anything on the hill as all the sat fats and other crap wil be burnt off by hard exercise and doesn't hang about in the bloodstream to cause any harm.
> You can eat anything on the hill as all the sat fats and other crap wil be burnt off by hard exercise and doesn't hang about in the bloodstream to cause any harm.
That kind of generalisation is spread by people with fast metabolisms. Please understand we are not all built the same. I managed to get to border-line obese while mountaineering very regularly! I am now back down to a good size, but I can't eat any more on the hill than I do in normal life. I genuinely put on weight if I up my food intake on the hill. I eat sensibly, but still have to watch it. Everyone needs to work out how their own body works!!
In reply to iksander: a whole baguette with cheese, jam and butter, then squashed flat and sliced into fingers, iq required
In reply to iksander:
Agree with girlymonkey on fat/metabolism generalizations, "you just burn it off don't you" is very person and activity dependent, and unless you're out several days in a row, the fat may not end up useful until your feet are up, though your metabolic processes do keep on a higher gear for a while after you've stopped exercising.
Regarding salty food on the hoof - I can't recall many hill walks where I've not sweated out a good deal first, and I always take plenty of water. Don't tell Walkers or they'll stick 50p on and sell crisps as 'Isotonic'.
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Agree with girlymonkey on fat/metabolism generalizations, "you just burn it off don't you" is very person and activity dependent, and unless you're out several days in a row, the fat may not end up useful until your feet are up, though your metabolic processes do keep on a higher gear for a while after you've stopped exercising.
Regarding salty food on the hoof - I can't recall many hill walks where I've not sweated out a good deal first, and I always take plenty of water. Don't tell Walkers or they'll stick 50p on and sell crisps as 'Isotonic'.
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In reply to iksander: Dates, or even better Dates and salted Peanuts. Try them great combination.
In reply to iksander:
I get marzipan, and knead into it a mixture of the following:
dates, dried fruit, seeds, nuts, dark chocolate, hemp protein, any of the random superfood things you get in packets etc...
In general, I take a 500g block on a long day, it fits in a chest pocket so it doesn't freeze and I only tend to eat about a quarter of that... It then freezes well for the next hill day!
For it to work well you have to eat it little and often though, I tend to have a chomp every hour and I avoid sugar rushes/lows that way too.
I get marzipan, and knead into it a mixture of the following:
dates, dried fruit, seeds, nuts, dark chocolate, hemp protein, any of the random superfood things you get in packets etc...
In general, I take a 500g block on a long day, it fits in a chest pocket so it doesn't freeze and I only tend to eat about a quarter of that... It then freezes well for the next hill day!
For it to work well you have to eat it little and often though, I tend to have a chomp every hour and I avoid sugar rushes/lows that way too.
In reply to LJC:
Piffle. Better than nothing, maybe, but the original is the best. Why mess with perfection?
> (In reply to nufkin) Clearly apple and cinnamon is better.
Piffle. Better than nothing, maybe, but the original is the best. Why mess with perfection?
In reply to JayPee630:
you get what you pay for ... home made and no nasties ! ...
I like my body
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> Have you seen the price of them! What a rip-off.
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> Have you seen the price of them! What a rip-off.
you get what you pay for ... home made and no nasties ! ...
I like my body
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