In reply to Daithi O Murchu:
> if they can shoot Jean Charles De Menezes then they can shoot Osama.
The JCM was not at all defensible, it was incidental that I happened to came across the QT interview last night when googling douglas murray.
> No one seems to give a f*ck about how De Menezes died anymore that was more shameful than the killing of Osama.
Really? Who doesn't?
> Nothing can be done about either now after the events.
Nothing can be done to bring them back, but I disagree that we cannot learn from such history.
> In my own view sometimes its necessary for some individuals to die for what they have done. I make no comment as to who should make that decision.
Well if you think that, frankly you should make that decision. You think its justified, you take the responsibility.
> As for the chap in the bookies i'm inclined to think that there is plenty of CCTV and if it shows that someone went beyond what is proportionate in the restraint of the robber then let them have a trial.
From what I've read of the story, even if they had been more than rigorous in their restraint, I'm not at all convinced they should have to face a trial.
> I can easily see where a mob mentality might have taken hold, and where one yobbo kills another as they assume just cause. Who knows i'm sure all will be made clear on that one in time.
How so? Through what mechanism?
> That QT link talks about the osama killing and how it demeans an exemplary president and democracy, no it doesn't, it's an imperfect world,
Yes it does. Thus your description "imperfect". Its not a desirable outcome, and absolutely cannot be rendered acceptable, because, then aiming for such might also become acceptable.
> Osamas not even a ghost anymore, he'll be forgotten about in 5 years, had they detained him in 5 years we'd perhaps be watching his trial and he'd be representing something again.
> he made his choices long ago, no doubt many years back he looked at himself in the mirror and had a chat with himself and weighted up the consequences. Osama himself would not have expected anything less!
I would rather have like to hear how he was armed and turned into the West hating man he became. I don't see why we couldn't have withstood his rhetoric, and why couldn't look at ourselves in the mirror as we look at him in the dock.