/ Comparing goupsets
Currently my only point of reference is price ie more expensive = 'better'
SRAM Apex Vs Shimano Ultegra
Cannondale CaadX Ultegra Vs Moda Calore
As it's forbiddingly expensive to try them all out, you can only really go from other people's advice. With that caveat that most people seem to like what they have.
They also change over time, with an example that people used to love campag, but I've noticed more and more people using SRAM over the past few years.
I have an old CAAD 5 frame. In its time state of the art and very lovely, corners like it's on rails, just as fun to ride as my modern cervelo made of carbon fibre.
Groupsets, well I've tried some super light weight stuff, lovely silver campag stuff and a few bits of SRAM. All good and bad in different ways and while shimano isn't the lightest, trendiest or most glam I find it a step up in terms of simple operation and performance over anything else. Japanese engineering for you.
Try both bikes, buy the one that makes you feel happiest and fits you best.
Cheers and have lots of fun choosing
> Currently my only point of reference is price ie more expensive = 'better'
> SRAM Apex Vs Shimano Ultegra
I think Ultegra is better than Apex. However, I put an Apex groupset on Mrs. Ent's bike and it's ace.
If you can't things appart and replace bits they'll probably cost more in the long run, and it's green to be able to too. (:-))
You should at least go into a bike shop or accost other cyclists and have a feel of the shifters - there's a significant difference in shape and shifting methods between Shimano/SRAM/Campagnolo
BTW, Ultegra is more or less equivalent to SRAM Force, Apex is more or less like 105 (sits just below SRAM Rival, but is quite close as it's more of a cyclosportive groupset rather than a race groupset).
My Mate says go for Campag, his reason "its a nicer font"
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