/ Telegraph report six missing in Cairngorms
Apologies if I'm duplicating a thread.
The DT report missing walkers from Leeds in the Caingorms in what are reported to be very testing conditions.
Waiting for more info as I'm at Leeds Uni and a friend was up in the Cairngorms this weekend but I don't know if he was with the same group.
It seems there was orignally 7 in the group. One had a fall on Sunday at 3pm and was rescued by MRT with the remaining 6 left to make their own way off the hill. Contact was made with the group at 12:10pm Monday and 5 were recovered from a hill near Carn Tarsuinn. Shortly after, a body was recovered from the Jacob's Ladder area.
My thoughts are with the family of the deceased. It sounds like the 5 survivors had a horrendous night. They must have been very lost to end up where they did.
Very sad. It sounds as though conditions are horrendous
the only Carn Tarsuinn in the area to my knowledge is about 10km to the NE of jacobs ladder, with 2 munros in the way. is this shoddy reporting or were they actually all in a single group?
I wondered that myself, but the Northern Constabulary website gives the same details, although it sounds like the body was recovered from Jacob's Ladder after they located the party of 5. Sad news whatever the circumstances - must have been bloody awful trying to get down off the hill given the conditions yesterday.
For once, the summit weather station seems to have been working so we have a good idea of the local conditions. It was bad, but certainly not exceptional.
Yesterday at 1518hrs on Cairngorm summit it was Severe Gale Force 9, nearing Storm Force 10:
- Mean windspeed 54.3mph
- Max windspeed 60.5mph
- Min Windspeed 46.8mph
- Wind direction 5.7 degrees
- Temperatures -5.8 degrees
Highest overnight windspeeds were at 2048hrs when it was Severe Storm Force 11:
- Mean windspeed 70.9mph
- Max windspeed 78.9mph
- Min Windspeed 60.5mph
- Wind direction 286.3 degrees
- Temperatures -5.4 degrees
Today at 1218hrs it was just Gale Force 8.
- Mean windspeed 38.0mph
- Max windspeed 44.0mph
- Min Windspeed 30.3mph
- Wind direction 11.0 degrees
- Temperatures -6.4 degrees
Tragic news once again. Still trying to get my head round if they were the same group as said above. I am interested to hear the story as I think its important to understand what happened so we can all learn from it.
I think the wind speed stats may not do justice to how bad conditions were last night. Extremely bad visibility even to low level with airborne snow.
> Tragic news once again. Still trying to get my head round if they were the same group as said above. I am interested to hear the story as I think its important to understand what happened so we can all learn from it.
It is a tricky balance, on previous posts on the recent incidents, there was criticism of those who posted condolences for ' people they did not know' and they also advised that now is not the time to ask too many questions or speculate. Everyone has their own view.
I was out and about at Glenmore lodge on Saturday,and the weather was fairly benign, but visibility was pretty poor( despite a better forecast than what we got, Saturday was to be the better day of the weekend.
We saw the helicopter out as we set off, and I spoke to the MRT at Ryvoan bothy, and they told me had just picked up a couple that had been out overnight and they were apparently fine.
( not sure why they were caught out, and did not get back as planned, but it was just good to hear they were ok, and I did not ask for any more details.)
As others have posted, this particular group do seem to have been reported to have been a long way from where they were expected to be, only they know why. Maybe in time, we may hear a bit more, and see then if there are lessons to learn, or perhaps it was just bad luck.
As an aside, he could also drink me under the table and had literally the worst taste in music. I will miss both these things.
Aye Andy a tragedy no doubt contributed to by the weather. Got lost on the plateau this month in a howler, it was so easy to do. We could not tell up from down so being stuck all night in that must horrendous.
Some more details in the Scotsman:
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