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Best trousers for scottish winter?

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 alexm198 11 Feb 2013
So, being a complete numpty, I've managed to shred my pair of Marmot Precip pants with my front-points this season.

Ordinarily, I wear powerstretch pants, a thin softshell layer and then overtrousers on top, but having knackered the waterproofs, I'm looking to upgrade to something a bit more substantial - can I get some recommendations on salopettes (preferably with braces and those helpful reinforced ankle patches...)?
In reply to alexm198: I'm selling a godo pair of winter trousers, in excellent condition, on this link:

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=536558&v=1#x7200388
 Caralynh 11 Feb 2013
In reply to alexm198:

I use Patagonia winter guide (previously Mixmasters) when it's very cold, no waterproof over the top.
 coolhand 11 Feb 2013
In reply to alexm198:
Anything, as long as they come in brown.
 MtnGeekUK 11 Feb 2013
In reply to alexm198:

Have a pair of Patagonia Alpine Guide pants if you're interested?
 steveshaking 11 Feb 2013
In reply to Steve Perry: I have recently got these too. If the weather is cold and not too windy or wet then I would say soft shell with long johns is fine. But if its damp or potentially wet I hate the over trouser thing, so the paramo aspiras are better - giving a reasonable level of protection and warmth without any other layers under or over. They have removeable foam knees too - I am forever banging my knees on ice so I like that.
In reply to alexm198:

Of course, depending on how shredded, the waterproofs could be repaired:

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/hill-skills/how-to-repair-torn-waterproofs/650...

If not, then the Decathlon Simond mountaineering pants are regularly discussed on these sort of threads... Soft shell trousers. Not strictly salopettes, but pretty close. £40
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