/ Kong climbing gear?

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TommyC on 16 Feb 2013
I keep seeing adverts in the FS forum for brand new Kong climbing gear, I'm not interested in buying I just wondered if anyone new much about it? It looks a bit suspect but could just be a bit like the gear4rocks kit?
Timmd on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to TommyC:I understand it's much much better than Kong gear, it's EU rated and won't come with cracks in the cam lobes which could turn into metal fatigue cracks.
Redsetter - on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to TommyC: Its perfectly safe, made in italy !, very popular in the EU
Timmd on 16 Feb 2013
Timmd on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to TommyC:


A metal fatigue specialist I sent the Gear4Rocks picture to commented that they could already be metal fatigue cracks in the cams.

A defect or notch in something metal can be a 'crack innitiation point', if they're not cracks from metal fatigue already happening, they certainly could/will be, given enough use of the camming device.
Timmd on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to Timmd:
> (In reply to TommyC)I understand it's much much better than Kong gear, it's EU rated and won't come with cracks in the cam lobes which could turn into metal fatigue cracks.

Even if the camming device didn't come with cracks already in the lobes, which is to be hoped, cracks like those in the picture shouldn't appear in cam lobes.
LJC - on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to TommyC: Kong make some great stuff, the slit fits I've seen advertised on here are a really nice feeling cam. Almost bought a set in Italy over c4s. They handle well, never fallen on one mind. Nothing like that Eastern European rubbish.
TommyC on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to TommyC: Cheers for clearing that up dudes. When I next need some gear I will check Kong out.

That cam does look seriously worrying!
Warner - on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to TommyC:
They always competed against Camp, Cassin and now Climbing Technology: all these factories are in 10 miles range.
And they make the (in)famous Gipsy! If you are around Milan you can buy their stuff in the factory at good prices.
Redsetter - on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to Timmd: Holy mother of christmas....thanks god for DMM quality control
jimtitt - on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to TommyC:
Kong Bonaiti is one of the oldest climbing gear manufacturers in the world, plenty of us have old Bonaiti karabiners still on our racks. The Kong side became prominent in the marine industry whereas the Bonaiti brand has fallen by the wayside somewhat. Ive some Kong gear, as mentioned they have a bigger market share in Europe. If I remember correctly they are the largest karabiner manufacturer in the world as they produce for other companies as well.
AlanLittle - on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to jimtitt:
> plenty of us have old Bonaiti karabiners still on our racks.

I think I still have a couple. They were the budget alternative to Clog when I was an impecunious student in the 80s.

Timmd on 16 Feb 2013
In reply to Redsetter:
> (In reply to Timmd) Holy mother of christmas....thanks god for DMM quality control

Absolutely, and Kong and wild Country and Camp...

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